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They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Doesn’t matter who came first, you can’t generate a bunch of smoke and noise. I’m sure Austin has a noise ordinance. Easy solution is to move the event to a better location.

Sometimes you can just smell the Bay Area aroma in someone’s post , this reeks of it please stop if you think gentrification is okay or if you hate communities particularly those of color having a good time why don’t you find a better location for your life?

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

#103

Real estate law has this concept of “Coming to the nuisance” where if you know that there is some kind of “nuisance” nearby and you move next to it anyway, you can’t complain about it later. I’m not a lawyer so I’m probably pedantically wrong about it in some way but that’s my understanding of it. People do this with small local airports all the time. They move in, knowing full well (or should know full well) that th…

Given enough people, loud complaining, money, and politicians ears you can get anything moved.

While most of the time that does appear to be the case, there are exceptions. eg:

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-martins-beach-supr...

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

#104

A variation of this rinsing out of any local culture is going on in Sacramento County California, where arguably gentrification has resulted in a 2019 autocratic edict that residents are not allowed to work on cars in their homes except fluid changes, with fines if you are found to have professional tools on the premises. https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/it-is-illegal-to... Since Sacramento County is appro…

Oh, this again.

This law was written to give code enforcement a cudgel against unlicensed repair shops. All the auto enthusiast blogs and forums immediately lost their minds, but there hasn't been a sweep of the neighborhoods with officers asking to look inside of your garage for uncommon tools. The one complaint I could find online [1] was from a dude whose handle was "nimblemotorsports" and he said he had a car lift on his property (but it hadn't been set up yet). [2]

There's plenty of room for grousing about poorly written laws, but this law has lots of other equally poorly written laws across the country to keep it company. Sacramento county isn't forbidding you from putting shiny new headers on your hot rod in your own garage.

[1]: https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/it-illegal-do-ma...

[2]: It took only a little more effort using the nimblemotorsports name to get an idea of why his neighbors might completely reasonably be getting irritated enough to call code enforcement.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as they personally don’t have to throw grandma down the stairs, they’re ok with it. The price of progress. Since TX doesn’t have Prop 13, they are going to be annoyed with the tents cluttering their views.

Not having Prop 13 and not know where you are posting from, what is Prop 13? edit: apparently, it's some sort of limiting of property tax. yes, texas does not have that, as property tax and sales tax are the only taxes. no state income tax has its pros/cons. it's part of being a texan to annually challenge your homes appraisal value. the only time i've ever had an issue with property tax was my first home when i was…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_California_Proposition_...

Property tax is generally determined by the average price of housing in an area. California's prop 13 allowed people to lock in their property tax based on when they bought it. Its been beneficial for retirees and older folks in California who bought their houses decades ago and if forced to pay the taxes based on current valuation would be forced to sell their house and move.

Its received a lot of criticism from people who point out that it's inherently unfair and how that the tax level stays the same if the owner dies and passes the house on to their kids. It also receives a lot of criticism because it also applies to businesses. One particularly egregious example is a country club in the middlebof LA that exists on prime developmental land and normally would be paying huge taxes pays nominal fees and is only available to the extremely wealthy that can afford to join it.

Prop 13 did get some reform last November in regards to inheritance and flexibility for homeowners.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I held out a small hope that covid and the remote-work wave would stem things a little bit, but it's hard to say whether that's happened. If anything, the influx could have increased due to the exodus from SF. This is exactly what we're seeing in the Seattle area. A lot of people in the various circles I'm in thought, as we entered the early stages of this pandemic really settling in for the long-haul, "well, phew,…

Similar feelings here. I simply don't know where else to go; it seems like every nice-to-live-in medium-sized city that isn't SF is going through this same song and dance. Money comes in like a flock of locusts, consumes the city, and SF is one of the first examples we're seeing of the husk that gets left behind. Then they move on to the next one. Where's a person supposed to lay down roots, without retreating deep i…

Odd answer, but go to the megacities that show resilience and are building housing. In the US, so far that may only be NYC. I know that's not amazing to hear if you have other reservations about NYC, but I think it's the reality until mid-sized cities catch on and get their shit together.

The other answer IMO is to pick a city no one in tech is even thinking about, and the growth rate is expected to be slow. Not to jynx them but places like Cleveland, Richmond VA, Indianapolis, Philadelphia, Detroit, Columbus, San Antonio, Milwaulkee, etc.

Personally, I far prefer the megacity, but that second list is a potential option.

From an urban development perspective, to me it seems that the best course of action would be a massive federal investment in existing mid-sized cities. Build large public transit networks in some of these becoming desirable cities and distribute the strain tech is putting on our urban centers. Massively increase housing density, but with this foresight, avoid doing the short term luxury development that won't hold up longterm and build some old fashioned 3-5 story brownstones.

The risk is that the people never come, but the alternative is the consistent hollowing out of all major US cities. Something has to give.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

#107

"The new arrivals have forced many Black residents to move out of the city: In 2000, about 10 percent of the Austin’s 656,000 residents were Black. By 2017, that percentage had dropped to around 7.5" Well, article definitely commits a statistical fallacy there. Austin is one of the fastest growing cities, especially from 2000-2017 period. The fact that the percentage went down (from 9.5 to 7.5), while the city's popu…

It's also a silly point to dwell on. Black people are not being forced out, less affluent people are.

While it's valid to be against the gentrification of a neighborhood. We should not conflate it with other issues.

There is a real problem, and that is black people are under represented in the upper classes. If you fix that problem this one goes away. If you try to keep the black percentage high in this area without fixing the wealth gap, I'm not sure that you are achieving much.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

#108
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According to the article, this event has been happening almost weekly for years 1) Does this mean the developers did not take this into consideration and have a plan on how to deal with this or handle it? 2) Does it mean the folks buying the apartments (or renting) did not do their due diligence and find out this is a weekly event? Takeaways here (for all of us reading this story) - do you research before you move to…

> have a plan on how to deal with this or handle it?

Seems the plan is around the expectation that the newcomers, being white and rich, are going to get their way in the end. Which I truly hope not.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

#110

alas, these Austin locals did not learn the SF lesson, real estate lesson 101 As soon as foreigners invade your shores (er, real estate spaces) move to grandfather a cap property tax that is particularly beneficial for long time real property owners. I understand that at first, this would do nothing to alleviate the attack on the local culture. The same foreigners would still call the cops. Yet, with enough time, the…

But you still need money to afford the increased property taxes, otherwise you'll have to sell and move out. Also, if you own, you only get money when you sell. If you are living there for a couple generations and don't plan on moving, the only thing you get is increased property taxes, and those foreigners complaining about your culture and trying to change it
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