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They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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No class of argument is more malleable than who was there “first”. Sometimes it means you’re right and you’re entitled. Sometimes it means you’re wrong and you’re exclusionary. All depending on the perspective of the person using it for leverage.

Compare this article with any article about the need for denser housing in California, which is often opposed by the people who were there first.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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I moved to Austin 20 years ago from Palo Alto. Fiesta Gardens isn’t all churros and mariachis. The car meet ups can legit be a bit rough. https://www.reddit.com/r/Austin/comments/6pocmw/brawls_at_fi...

So I understand where the gentrifying scum are coming from. But jeez, do they not know how to search Reddit?? Everyone knows about Fiesta Gardens and its craziness. I’m sorry they failed to do their due diligence. Now perhaps they’ll understand why it’s cheaper than Tarrytown.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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What’s annoying is that instead of switching to whataburger, their bringing the in’n’outs. The transplants are failing to assimilate here and it really shows. If I land a remote job I’m selling my place and moving to San Antonio.

San Antonio is one of the friendliest, kindest, and most delightfully understated places I’ve ever visited. Whatever it is that makes it that way, let’s spread it across America.

Ok, now I need to spend some time there.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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post #26

What's the issue with gentrification? We are living in a fast paced world so one needs to adapt to the changes. It could be my neighbor, skill sets, policies, etc.

Seriously. It’s that the changes don’t bring with them culturally meaningful adaptations. We see apartments built like the one described but that doesn’t introduce long term neighborhood residents like the ones joining the party.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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When places are full of white people, minorities are brought in in the name of diversity and it's to be celebrated. When places are full of minorities and whites move in, it's gentrification and we need to write articles lamenting it. Cultural mixing happens both ways. Sometimes inclusion means changing long standing traditions.

Have there been any natural experiments where less-wealthy white folk were priced out by more-wealthy non-white? I think the driver of gentrification is economic class not race/ethnicity. Wealthier and whiter show up together but may not be the same thing.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

San Antonio is one of the friendliest, kindest, and most delightfully understated places I’ve ever visited. Whatever it is that makes it that way, let’s spread it across America.

Ok, now I need to spend some time there.

Definitely visit. Check out the river walk. If you’re a basketball fan, you got the Spurs.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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post #36

At the general level, I doubt anyone is surprised to see this story, and there will likely be more to come as tech flocks to Austin (though it was already a notable tech hub with some of these pressures already before the billionaires decided to give it the seal of approval). To me, the more interesting question here is how does Austin avoid what happened to SF, where tech hollowed out nearly all of its existing cult…

Those traditional black neighborhoods were bought up, demolished and turned into luxury apartments at insane prices.

At one point I was on the east side and saw an old black woman rocking on her front porch in front of a 70's shotgun shack, next to an ugly post-modern 2 story house with a lambo and a tesla sitting outside of it.

I don't think increasing housing density is the answer. We really don't need more luxury apartments or million dollar condos.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

#59

"The new arrivals have forced many Black residents to move out of the city: In 2000, about 10 percent of the Austin’s 656,000 residents were Black. By 2017, that percentage had dropped to around 7.5" Well, article definitely commits a statistical fallacy there. Austin is one of the fastest growing cities, especially from 2000-2017 period. The fact that the percentage went down (from 9.5 to 7.5), while the city's popu…

I'm not surprised. The article struck me as particularly amateurish, which is unfortunate because the situation is an unusually nuanced and interesting one on a topic that's constantly talked about.

I'm interested in the nuanced version. I'm not familiar with the event. The article painted a pretty clear and unsympathetic story: "these folks have been gathering in this spot to do this thing weekly for 25 years, an expensive apartment building went up, and some of the residents who moved in don't like the event and want it canceled, citing a variety of flimsy pretexts."

So what's the interesting and unusual nuance that makes this story more interesting?

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