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They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Post by wutbrodo »

jameson wrote: post #26

What's the issue with gentrification? We are living in a fast paced world so one needs to adapt to the changes. It could be my neighbor, skill sets, policies, etc.

This is just asserting the conclusion instead of arguing it. Some people disagree that one needs to adapt to changes ad infinitum, and think that there's value in social capital, continuity, etc.

I'm personally pretty inclined towards the change side of the argument, but there's no sense in pretending there aren't two sides to discussion, particularly after the High Modernist failures of the 20th century.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Post by skissane »

chrisco255 wrote: post #5

"The new arrivals have forced many Black residents to move out of the city: In 2000, about 10 percent of the Austin’s 656,000 residents were Black. By 2017, that percentage had dropped to around 7.5" Well, article definitely commits a statistical fallacy there. Austin is one of the fastest growing cities, especially from 2000-2017 period. The fact that the percentage went down (from 9.5 to 7.5), while the city's popu…

According to US Census data [0], between 2000 and 2010, the City of Austin (meaning the city proper not the metro area)'s "African American (non-Hispanic)" population fell by 5.4% (a decline of almost 3,500 people). Over the same time period, its overall population grew by around 20% (from 657,000 to 790,000). That seems more consistent with what the article says than with the picture you are painting.

[0] https://www.austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Planni...

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Post by alvah »

"a non-Hispanic white woman with short blond hair who appeared to be in her fifties, claimed that smoke from the tires was killing nearby trees and that traffic from the gathering would make it impossible for an ambulance to reach her in the event of a medical emergency".

Did she demand to speak to the manager?

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Post by hintymad »

chrisco255 wrote: post #5

"The new arrivals have forced many Black residents to move out of the city: In 2000, about 10 percent of the Austin’s 656,000 residents were Black. By 2017, that percentage had dropped to around 7.5" Well, article definitely commits a statistical fallacy there. Austin is one of the fastest growing cities, especially from 2000-2017 period. The fact that the percentage went down (from 9.5 to 7.5), while the city's popu…

Doesn’t matter. Everything is about racism in the US now. You criticize a politician, you’re a racist. Your neighborhood gentrifies, you’re a racist. You want to discuss the border issue, you’re a racist. You want to improve quality of STEM education, you’re a racist. You ask journalists to wait for facts before asserting that the shooter in Boulder is a white supremacist, you’re a racist.

So, what’s wrong with the stats again? For all I can tell, you question the stats about black community, you’re a racist.

Facts, issues, solutions? They don’t matter. We should follow the lead of our great leaders like Elizabeth Warren, like AOC, like leaders of our teachers unions, brilliantly pointing out any dissident voice is racism. But who the fuck am I, right? The US people want to destroy their own country, why would an immigrant like me agonize? I guess I’m a racist for questioning the great wokeism in the US.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Post by NearAP »

According to the article, this event has been happening almost weekly for years

1) Does this mean the developers did not take this into consideration and have a plan on how to deal with this or handle it?

2) Does it mean the folks buying the apartments (or renting) did not do their due diligence and find out this is a weekly event?

Takeaways here (for all of us reading this story) - do you research before you move to a place (rent or buy). Go there on a weekday and a weekend. Ask current residents about the place or other folks who live nearby about the place. It will save you a ton of hassle later on.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Post by wutbrodo »

wahern wrote: post #37
gowld wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Renters don't get to profit from real estate appreciation. That's the problem with gentrification.

Many areas of Texas and California have had large, stable, resident latino communities for over a hundred years or more, and thus far greater percentages of property ownership than in most other areas.

The distribution of property owners is not the same as the distribution of renters (most obviously with respect to class), even in a subpopulation like "Latinos".

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Post by quantified »

olivermarks wrote: post #34

A variation of this rinsing out of any local culture is going on in Sacramento County California, where arguably gentrification has resulted in a 2019 autocratic edict that residents are not allowed to work on cars in their homes except fluid changes, with fines if you are found to have professional tools on the premises. https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/it-is-illegal-to... Since Sacramento County is appro…

Sounds like a place in need of “right to repair”

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Post by practicalpants »

droptablemain wrote: post #12

"Another Weaver resident voiced more generalized criticism, calling the event a 'display of toxic masculinity.'"

I thought you were joking until I read the article. That's not a thing I've ever seen in Austin's culture, indeed a transplant.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

jameson wrote: post #26

What's the issue with gentrification? We are living in a fast paced world so one needs to adapt to the changes. It could be my neighbor, skill sets, policies, etc.

I'd imagine one's views on gentrification are largely shaped by which side of the gentrification they're on.
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