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Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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Not another framework please. What's wrong with developing libraries and releasing them separately?

Isn't that exactly what's happening? Svelte is a library and SvelteKit is a framework built on top of it? I think.

That's pretty much it, yeah. But on HN, you will always find framework = bad comments.

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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Web dev with Svelte brings me back to the early days of web development - php, MySQL, jquery and XMLhttprequest. I personally have never understood all the tooling required to build a modern day react app, and oh how I have tried. Svelte dev as a way-of-thinking-framework is as close to the fundamentals as I think you can get. The dx is amazing and sveltekit takes it to the next level. #sveltalowda Edit: embarrassing…

How does Sveltekit compare to Elder.js? I've been trying Elder.js out and I really like how easy it is to specify which parts to hydrate. https://elderguide.com/tech/elderjs/

ElderJS is a very specific use-case, which is mass static generation, designed for SEO heavy sites. It's a very narrow usecase.

SvelteKit is designed to let you build anything at all with Svelte.

ElderJS, JungleJS, Primo etc, are all specialisms.

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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What is SvelteKit? The linked page assumes I already know and have just been waiting for an announcement. I have heard a bit about Svelte. I love the analogy with spreadsheets, where original spreadsheets reevaluated every cell whenever any cell changed. Modern spreadsheets maintain a dependency graph, so when something changes, only the direct dependencies are even evaluated. If any of them change, then only their d…

SvelteKit is a fullstack framework with SSR, using Svelte for the frontend.

I have been building JS apps since '99 and once I found Svelte/SvelteKit, I have not looked back.

It really lets you stay in the flow of creativity while building.

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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post #22

What is SvelteKit? The linked page assumes I already know and have just been waiting for an announcement. I have heard a bit about Svelte. I love the analogy with spreadsheets, where original spreadsheets reevaluated every cell whenever any cell changed. Modern spreadsheets maintain a dependency graph, so when something changes, only the direct dependencies are even evaluated. If any of them change, then only their d…

SvelteKit is a fullstack framework with SSR, using Svelte for the frontend. I have been building JS apps since '99 and once I found Svelte/SvelteKit, I have not looked back. It really lets you stay in the flow of creativity while building.

SSR = server side rendering.

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

#99
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does Sveltekit compare to Elder.js? I've been trying Elder.js out and I really like how easy it is to specify which parts to hydrate. https://elderguide.com/tech/elderjs/

ElderJS is a very specific use-case, which is mass static generation, designed for SEO heavy sites. It's a very narrow usecase. SvelteKit is designed to let you build anything at all with Svelte. ElderJS, JungleJS, Primo etc, are all specialisms.

interesting distinctions... thanks.

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

#100

One thing that stops me from moving over to Svelte from Vue is the lack of a Vuetify (component framework with an API & tons of slots) equivalent. That's also what stops me from moving over to Vue 3 (for which Vuetify support is currently in Alpha). Vuetify just makes dev life so much easier. If Svelte had something that deep and all-encompassing I'd go all-in.

Have you seen: https://sveltematerialui.com/
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