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SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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Post by wffurr »

SiVal wrote: post #22

What is SvelteKit? The linked page assumes I already know and have just been waiting for an announcement. I have heard a bit about Svelte. I love the analogy with spreadsheets, where original spreadsheets reevaluated every cell whenever any cell changed. Modern spreadsheets maintain a dependency graph, so when something changes, only the direct dependencies are even evaluated. If any of them change, then only their d…

Third paragraph has a link: https://kit.svelte.dev/docs

Top has a link to a prior blog post: https://svelte.dev/blog/whats-the-deal-with-sveltekit

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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Post by wirahx »

SiVal wrote: post #22

What is SvelteKit? The linked page assumes I already know and have just been waiting for an announcement. I have heard a bit about Svelte. I love the analogy with spreadsheets, where original spreadsheets reevaluated every cell whenever any cell changed. Modern spreadsheets maintain a dependency graph, so when something changes, only the direct dependencies are even evaluated. If any of them change, then only their d…

There's a link right next to the main headline - "What's the deal with SvelteKit"

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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Post by msoad »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #17
pspeter3 wrote: post #11

Vite seems to be powering many of these meta frameworks. Will it be the new Webpack?

No, go back about a week to the thread here on esbuild: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26399377 Esbuild is a go-based tool that takes the place of babel, webpack, tsc, etc. and is much, much faster than webpack. Vite adds a nicer dev experience on top of esbuild (hot module reloading, etc.).

not tsc. There has been attempts to build a faster tsc but I have not seen any results yet.

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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Post by wirahx »

runawaybottle wrote: post #8
dang wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've banned this account for posting a huge number of unsubstantive comments. That's not what HN is for. It's supposed to be for thoughtful, substantive conversation and intellectual curiosity. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html .

I’d like to know what he/she said, given it was their digital last words on the site.

FWIW this person is also banned from the Svelte github and the Svelte discord for similar behaviour.

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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Post by wirahx »

runawaybottle wrote: post #12
miltonsopus wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It said "about time."

And why did this warrant death? Just so everyone knows, few people even give a fuck about Svelte. Let’s not be babies.

The banned user is a person who intentionally trolls comment sections, chats, and other forms of feedback. It's genuinely their goal to get banned.

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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Post by dang »

runawaybottle wrote: post #12
miltonsopus wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It said "about time."

And why did this warrant death? Just so everyone knows, few people even give a fuck about Svelte. Let’s not be babies.

Note the phrase "a huge number" in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26558343.

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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Post by wirahx »

msoad wrote: post #44
qbasic_forever wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, go back about a week to the thread here on esbuild: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26399377 Esbuild is a go-based tool that takes the place of babel, webpack, tsc, etc. and is much, much faster than webpack. Vite adds a nicer dev experience on top of esbuild (hot module reloading, etc.).

not tsc. There has been attempts to build a faster tsc but I have not seen any results yet.

I think there is a faster TSC, I forget what it's called, but it's significantly faster. It just isn't as fully fledged as TSC.

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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Post by dang »

runawaybottle wrote: post #26
aidos wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In isolation, maybe it doesn’t, but reading through the comment history, the site will be better without these contributions.

That’s up to us to decide. I have said some pretty insane things, and I often don’t get downvotes. If we reach scale, HN is doomed in general. Until then, we should pick the organic route. Most people are lurkers, so if they even had something to say, it would be one liners.

Moderation is part of HN. That's one reason why being "doomed in general" hasn't yet destroyed the site after 10+ years of "reaching scale" (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...).

Part of what moderators do is ban accounts that break the site guidelines repeatedly, especially when they are respawns of previous accounts that broke the site guidelines repeatedly.

Re: SvelteKit Is in Public Beta

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Post by rich_harris »

SiVal wrote: post #22

What is SvelteKit? The linked page assumes I already know and have just been waiting for an announcement. I have heard a bit about Svelte. I love the analogy with spreadsheets, where original spreadsheets reevaluated every cell whenever any cell changed. Modern spreadsheets maintain a dependency graph, so when something changes, only the direct dependencies are even evaluated. If any of them change, then only their d…

Added a paragraph to the blog post:

> Think of it as Next for Svelte. It's a framework for building apps with Svelte, complete with server-side rendering, routing, code-splitting for JS and CSS, adapters for different serverless platforms and so on.

> If you're familiar with Sapper, SvelteKit is Sapper's successor.

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