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LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

#81
post #23

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What's to stop you? the government making it illegal to run hacking tools like "tor" (see the silk road/bitcoin post on HN from earlier) etc illegal and forcing your ISP to record any use of such and block you off the internet (see france's 3 strikes, you as a person are not allowed on the internet law) and report you and then possibly criminally prosecute you as well.

What you're suggesting is impossible. >the government making it illegal to run hacking tools like "tor" Do you think that there is nothing illegal that happens on the internet now ? How long was it illegal to export encryption? How many people actually cared? >forcing your ISP to record any use of such and block you off the internet The encryption standards that we all use are the same encryption standards that are r…

Was Tor actually invented by the NSA? I didn't manage to find any sources for that, could you provide one?

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

#82
post #28

When they're attacking Sony it's "righteous" and "good", when they're attacking companies we like they're "bad" and "immature". They've always stated their intention is to create "lulz" and just do whatever damage they can, apparently people overlooked this when they were attacking people everyone "hated". Luckily Minecraft wasn't down for too long, some of us are directly affected by this stuff, sigh. The internet i…

These attacks are annoying and damaging but in the long run they make our internet stronger. If these didn't happen so often people would care a lot less about security and robustness.

you make it sound like we should congratulate lulz for good work

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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post #81
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you're suggesting is impossible. >the government making it illegal to run hacking tools like "tor" Do you think that there is nothing illegal that happens on the internet now ? How long was it illegal to export encryption? How many people actually cared? >forcing your ISP to record any use of such and block you off the internet The encryption standards that we all use are the same encryption standards that are r…

Was Tor actually invented by the NSA? I didn't manage to find any sources for that, could you provide one?

Actually, I'll admit that I can't either. I may be wrong about this, and it may have just been a rumor that sounded about right (NSA has made several contributions to the cryptography community)

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

#84
post #43

How is it that so much coverage of LulzSec still hasn't understood their motives? The group's agenda isn't entirely clear right now Yes, it is, they're doing it because they find it funny.

I think it's dismissive to jump to that conclusion - they're likely turning a healthy profit by dumping lists of emails, credit card numbers, and zero-day vulnerabilities on the black market.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

#85
post #70

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Really? You had to bring race into it?

If he's talking about the FBI, he's talking about USGOV. If he's talking about USGOV, the demographics of Congress, the Cabinet, and the Supreme Court are pretty clear.

It has apparently become unfashionable to mention this fact. I hereby retract "league of american white old men" and substitute instead "league of american over-reacting nannystate citizen-leaders of indeterminate age, race, or sex".(1)

(1) They also may or may not have formerly said "Ni!" Hacker News, like Camelot, can sometimes be a very silly place.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

#86
post #57

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Ah, but to them , the more you complain that it's not funny any more, the funnier it gets. It's kinda like a destructive version of people who say "That's what she said".

Very true, indifference would make them stop.

Agreed. I wasn't going to say anything about it, but then every other day I see a new story and I roll my eyes in disbelief that they have struck again - then I don't say anything thinking it will be the last and wake up 2 days later and the cycle repeats itself. So I had to say something this time.

The most ironic thing about all of this though is they are likely destroying the very feature (anonymity) that they are exploiting.

All this does is give ammo to the record companies that want tight restrictions on the internet. Once that happens, it's game over. They can't win that one.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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post #81
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you're suggesting is impossible. >the government making it illegal to run hacking tools like "tor" Do you think that there is nothing illegal that happens on the internet now ? How long was it illegal to export encryption? How many people actually cared? >forcing your ISP to record any use of such and block you off the internet The encryption standards that we all use are the same encryption standards that are r…

Was Tor actually invented by the NSA? I didn't manage to find any sources for that, could you provide one?

Not the NSA, it came from the Navy. See here: http://www.onion-router.net/

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

#88
post #62
post #50

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No. Not that easy. They use VPNs offshore chained together not to mention the off shore vps' they have. Of course they would use protection when even just getting on Twitter, so a phone call from the government would do very little as the give would receive an IP from somewhere offshores that doesnt give a damn about US law, providing time and security to lulzsec.

I wonder how secure those VPN providers are. Regardless, my bet is that these guys will get taken down via a Kaczynski vulnerability. That is, someone that personally knows them will figure out that they are responsible and report them to the authorities.

I doubt they use only "paid for" services in their chain. There are very likely normal user-boxes (like your moms) and "forgotten" servers involved as well.

It's not easy to back trace when you have to send in someone to do forensics on a computer.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

#89
post #43

How is it that so much coverage of LulzSec still hasn't understood their motives? The group's agenda isn't entirely clear right now Yes, it is, they're doing it because they find it funny.

I think it's dismissive to jump to that conclusion - they're likely turning a healthy profit by dumping lists of emails, credit card numbers, and zero-day vulnerabilities on the black market.

If they wanted to do that, then I don' think they would announce it. Offering someone a bunch of private data, 0 days, credit card info, but then making it useless in a few hours because you announce it to the world, hardly seems like a viable/profitable business.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

#90
Does anyone else see this as an excuse to limit Net Neutrality by various world governments? I hope these actions which are carried out for the sheer 'lulz' don't lead to more concerns with the freedom of our wonderful worldwide web.

That, is the opposite of 'teh lulz.' :|

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