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Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]

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Shameless plug: You can create one of these yourself using https://wzrd.ai , with any audio you want.

I tried this recently but it's possible to get all the way to putting your card details in without it ever telling you how much it's going to charge you. I closed it.

Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]

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There's two fallacies I think you've touched on here, one is that there is an "objectively best" music. Music is so tightly coupled to cultural movements, very subjective, and extremely broad in scope, it just can't be the case. The second I feel is that people would still be interested in AI music in a meaningful way. I think AI music has a following now because it's interesting and novel, and that gives it a story,…

I am old enough to remember when people were afraid that Muzak would take over. It did not. I was at a Chinese restaurant, around a year and a half ago, and realized that the music they played was a sort of “ersatz” music. It was familiar tunes, like Scarborough Fair, or Hotel California, slightly modified, and strung together. Vocals were basically wordless humming. There is an entire industry, based on musicians, p…

I would argue that a lot of this "stock music" is just a continuation of elevator music which has been around for a very long time. There's musicians (often very good ones) who essentially made their whole career doing this music, look up James Last for example.

Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]

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I really like it, altough the music seems to be always the 2 same songs with some alterations - Dancer In The Dark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnGv2gwk8As - Cigarettes After Sex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIKTnnsL9CU

The one I got seemed to be a combination of the two. It didn't sound all bad tbh.

Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]

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post #57

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William Gibson's Neuromancer (1984) features a Jamaican space tug where the "righteous dub" played within is automatically generated by remixing a vast library of existing music. I was fascinated by the concept when I first read about it as a budding DJ, and it's kind of exciting to see it come to fruition, even if the single tune this particular AI seems to play is pretty insipid.

This sounds like an application I want to play with. Given a playlist, generate an endless tune based on remixes of all the tracks.

That is something that would be of interest to those working with splitting audio into 'stems', drums, bass, voice, music. Algorithm DJay can do a version of that 'on the fly'. Serato Studio is a kind of remix 'on the fly', but there are many others. Both have automix settings that work very well, especially if you line up similarly grouped tracks.

Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]

#75
post #44

What is a good start to learn about generative art with neural nets? Using tools which work on OSX preferably. Lets say I want to train the AI on classical art pictures and see what it can generate by itself.

If you are just starting with ML a very good start IMO is "Deep learning with Python", by Chollet. The second edition is very recent.

It starts from the basics and takes you to some complex scenarios. It's focused primarily on Keras, which is a very to use library to start from.

The book covers a lot ML on images, so moving from there to generative art should be "easy" once you grasp the fundamentals.

I don't know however how feasible is to do ML on Macs, it might be a breeze or impossible, I genuinely have no idea :-)

Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]

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This is scary and what I feared would eventually happen. How long before AI is better than every music producer, trained on all of music how likeable something is? How long before fake influencers on IG and TikTok completely dominate by having more addictive personalities and videos to follow than real people?

I encourage you to read up on "Doctoring the Tardis" and "The Manual", as well as "I wanna 1-2-1 with you".

These were productions from the artists behind the KLF to expose how formulaic chart hits were. So I would not be surprised if we see AI produce top 40 hits sometime in the future. However, I would be very surprised if AI could replace the vast majority of music that is out there.

Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]

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Don't forget that playing a musical instrument or watching crowds move to your beat is an incredible experience that is not going to be enjoyed by artificial systems, at least anytime soon.

Make part of your AI DJ a reinforcement learning agent whose reward function considers the amplitude and coherence of the movement of the crowd. This agent would enjoy the moving crowds in a much more authentic way than a human DJ would. I can't find it now, but there was a wearable project (I believe earrings?) which gave quantitative feedback about how a music audience were moving.

I guess the question is if crowd movement is differentiable.

Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]

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There's two fallacies I think you've touched on here, one is that there is an "objectively best" music. Music is so tightly coupled to cultural movements, very subjective, and extremely broad in scope, it just can't be the case. The second I feel is that people would still be interested in AI music in a meaningful way. I think AI music has a following now because it's interesting and novel, and that gives it a story,…

Parent meant best in the sense of Billboard Hot 100. Saying people will not be interested in AI music is like saying people will not be interested in movies with CGI.

That's not even a close comparison. Humans make CGI, it's still directed and created by humans. The real comparison would be seeing if people would accept that movies aren't written and directed by humans anymore.

Music outside of pop gains popularity through grass roots popularity contests essentially. Then in Top 40 people care way more about the personalities than the music, you could probably sneak some AI music in there but you would still need the singer to sing.

Music is very often a cult of personality thing, even outside of pop. In those arenas authenticity is really important, someone not even making their music would be outed pretty quick.

Some examples of what I mean: People go to clubs to hear DJs play, because they perceive the DJ to be generating the atmosphere. You couldn't get people to pay a cover charge to see that DJ's mix play without them present, even though it's technically very easy and would be exactly the same music.

Similarly, you can't get people to go to a concert of a recording of a band, that would be lame. People want the band.

Re: This Music Video Does Not Exist [video]

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post #14

I really like it, altough the music seems to be always the 2 same songs with some alterations - Dancer In The Dark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnGv2gwk8As - Cigarettes After Sex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIKTnnsL9CU

Did you reverse search that with Shazam etc or did you just know those songs?

One was familiar, but i shazamed them to be sure, worked surprisingly well
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