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Re: The absolute worst scenario happened

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Post by brailsafe »

wonderwonder wrote: post #519
Leherenn wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes exactly. Sometimes they ask you if you can negotiate with your employer to shorten this period, which is often the case. Of course, they would rather it was shorter, but hiring is already a multi-months long process in most cases, so a few more months is inconvenient, but not the end of the world. If you need someone now, you hire contractors.

Interesting. Does it go for firing as well? Is it very hard to fire someone without providing the 3 months notice?

That was my thought. It's typical in Canada that an employer will pay you out for the rest if your two weeks or whatever, and in the U.S I don't know, but have it really favours the business. I'm still at abloss as to how this works in what is apparently most of Europe. Notice is more like 2 or 3 weeks.

Re: The absolute worst scenario happened

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

detaro wrote: post #496
AtlasBarfed wrote: post #495

If it's an ERP solution, where is the ERP support? What is the "E" in ERP without support?

The E obviously refers to the enterprise using it, not the "Enterprise-y-ness" of the software.

The discussion on reddit said it actually was another vendor's ERP, but they "went out of business".

Honestly there is so much WTF-ness to the whole stack I'm starting to suspect this is a fabrication.

Re: The absolute worst scenario happened

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Post by anonAndOn »

nate_meurer wrote: post #513
johnchristopher wrote: post #494

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Bullshit. The way the story is told the price doubled after and because of the CEO screaming. The market has nothing to do with that except the good old "The fair price is the one that god paid, uh.” I suppose.

> "The fair price is the one that god paid, uh.” This is literally the definition of price discovery in a free market. If the price was not worth the service the company was to receive, they would not have paid it. The fact that they did pay it clearly indicates that the first price was far below what the "market" would bear.

He probably even left money on the table. When you need The Wolf to come clean up your mess, The Wolf gets paid well to do so.[0]

[0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojTKkfgvwvU

Re: The absolute worst scenario happened

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Post by anonAndOn »

clipradiowallet wrote: post #409
csomar wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Farmers don’t get to set the price of their products Actually farmers could set any price if they colluded to manipulate the market. People will buy food at any price and everyday .

This is offset by imported food. If 100% of American farmers colluded to fix prices, they'd have their lunch eaten(hah) by food importers. Obviously not everything is importable(eg rice), but there is more to the market than the American farmers.

You're right, there is more to the market but not how you describe it. Tariffs are available to any American cartel willing to buy enough politicians. Take a look at sugar, for example. [0]

[0]https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/candy-coated-cartel-tim...

Re: The absolute worst scenario happened

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Post by bigiain »

nimih wrote: post #507
gambiting wrote: post #440

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Well because if he was taken to court that costs time and money, even if ultimately the lawsuit fails, no?

Maybe this is my naivety showing, but to my knowledge it's not a common occurrence for companies to sue employees for refusing to work for them, especially if (as the OP notes elsewhere in the thread) there's no actual contractual obligation.

> for companies to sue employees for refusing to work for them

Especially ex-employees who've been gone 6 months already.

Shouldn't be hard to find a no win no fee ambulance chaser to happily take them on and get costs awarded and damages as well...

Re: The absolute worst scenario happened

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Post by nextaccountic »

ycombinete wrote: post #322
tofuahdude wrote: post #309

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I love this with all my heart. You did exactly the right thing at every step.

Funnily enough it made me sick to my stomach. I manage a small company and the idea of being extorted in such a blasé and psychopathic fashion terrifies me to even think about.

Extorted? If you didn't like his rate, just hire someone else. Or do the coding yourself.

Re: The absolute worst scenario happened

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Post by Leherenn »

wonderwonder wrote: post #519
Leherenn wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes exactly. Sometimes they ask you if you can negotiate with your employer to shorten this period, which is often the case. Of course, they would rather it was shorter, but hiring is already a multi-months long process in most cases, so a few more months is inconvenient, but not the end of the world. If you need someone now, you hire contractors.

Interesting. Does it go for firing as well? Is it very hard to fire someone without providing the 3 months notice?

You would have to prove cause to fire without notice.

Also, depending on the country, firing/layoffs can be difficult without cause (and often even with cause) (e.g. you can't layoff someone at will, you might need to prove that you have an economic downturn before downsizing). But this varies way more between countries as far as I know.

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