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Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

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Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

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Post by gambiting »

There is an incredibly important part of this that I feel everyone is missing.

The grass eaten by the cows would produce exactly as much methane if it was just left to rot. It's not as if cows somehow produce methane out of grass that would otherwise just....turn into dust?

None of those studies take this into account, they all just measure what comes into a cow and what comes out, but no one takes into account the amount of methane produced from the same feed even without cows involved.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/mar-2-2019-the-goodness-para...

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

klmadfejno wrote: post #31
airhead969 wrote: post #4

This is like improving ICEs to enable their continued existence. To what end? How about eliminating meat ag altogether since it's a waste of resources, a significant component of man-made climate change, a pandemic risk, a major source of pollution, driver of deforestation, and poses a threat to antibiotic resistance? But no, the typical rationalizations include: "Muh cheezburger is muh freedom. I can eat whatever I…

You could start by not representing people who eat meat as stereotypical fat redneck americans, which, in addition to just being baseline offensive, is hardly a dominant trait among people who eat meat.

I question whether people who make such remarks have ever met a farmer.

I really dislike this method of trying to attain one's vision; wantonly throwing around absolutes and creating enemies out of neighbours. It's hubris personified.

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

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Post by j-pb »

bookmarkable wrote: post #55
j-pb wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Habe you tried the latest substitutes? Artificial chicken based on pea proteins has become virtually indistinguishable from real chicken.

Artificial chicken stuffed with soy and other fillers can't be long term indistinguishable to your body. I wish you lasting health, but fear you are suggesting we all gamble on the oversight and benevolence of the food industry by eating even more processed, engineered foods than even Doritos or Taco Bell as your main protein source(s). Yes, industrial food does bad things to produce large amounts of chicken, but the…

Got any research to back up your claims?

Your "natural" meat also contains "natural stress hormones", "natural inflamation inducing cytokines", and not so natural antibiotics.

Your anti-scientific attitude is not helpfull.

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

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Post by jinkyu »

j-pb wrote: post #6

I guess everything helps, but we put so much effort into the problems with easy solutions, that could be invested into the difficult stuff. Livestock contributes to 15% of all greenhouse gasses. But the solution is easy, cheap, and only midly inconvenient. Going vegan. This has the added benefit of protecting threatened ecosystems in the rainforrest and seas. We could then spend that energy on the difficult stuff. Fa…

lol. vegan is just as bad if not worse for the climate. _sustainable_ vegan is horrifically expensive. go make a victory garden in your back yard and sell your car if you feel so strongly about this.

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

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Post by jstimpfle »

gambiting wrote: post #61

There is an incredibly important part of this that I feel everyone is missing. The grass eaten by the cows would produce exactly as much methane if it was just left to rot. It's not as if cows somehow produce methane out of grass that would otherwise just....turn into dust? None of those studies take this into account, they all just measure what comes into a cow and what comes out, but no one takes into account the a…

If there is no difference there (I don't know anything about this), doesn't agriculture at least lead to higher rate / volume of grass growth?

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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

gambiting wrote: post #61

There is an incredibly important part of this that I feel everyone is missing. The grass eaten by the cows would produce exactly as much methane if it was just left to rot. It's not as if cows somehow produce methane out of grass that would otherwise just....turn into dust? None of those studies take this into account, they all just measure what comes into a cow and what comes out, but no one takes into account the a…

Only grass decomposed in an anaerobic environment would produce methane. Grass decomposed aerobically would produce CO2 instead.

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

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Post by augustocallejas »

gambiting wrote: post #61

There is an incredibly important part of this that I feel everyone is missing. The grass eaten by the cows would produce exactly as much methane if it was just left to rot. It's not as if cows somehow produce methane out of grass that would otherwise just....turn into dust? None of those studies take this into account, they all just measure what comes into a cow and what comes out, but no one takes into account the a…

Wouldn’t they make less grass then if it wasn’t used to feed cows as much?

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

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Post by PZ81JUXJE7uJ »

gambiting wrote: post #61

There is an incredibly important part of this that I feel everyone is missing. The grass eaten by the cows would produce exactly as much methane if it was just left to rot. It's not as if cows somehow produce methane out of grass that would otherwise just....turn into dust? None of those studies take this into account, they all just measure what comes into a cow and what comes out, but no one takes into account the a…

The problem is, most weed is produced exclusively for cows, so your argument does not work.

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Post by BlackCherry »

gambiting wrote: post #61

There is an incredibly important part of this that I feel everyone is missing. The grass eaten by the cows would produce exactly as much methane if it was just left to rot. It's not as if cows somehow produce methane out of grass that would otherwise just....turn into dust? None of those studies take this into account, they all just measure what comes into a cow and what comes out, but no one takes into account the a…

But the cows eat the grass a lot faster than it would be rotting right? So wouldn't the speed of the methane entering the atmosphere be faster?
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