Why the Wuhan lab leak theory shouldn't be dismissed
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Why the Wuhan lab leak theory shouldn't be dismissed
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#2I’m sure everyone here can appreciate the difference between development and manufacturing.
While I agree that it’s extremely unlikely that a lab developed this virus, it’s far more plausible for one to have manufactured it.
Re: Why the Wuhan lab leak theory shouldn't be dismissed
#3I’m sure everyone here can appreciate the difference between development and manufacturing. While I agree that it’s extremely unlikely that a lab developed this virus, it’s far more plausible for one to have manufactured it.
What makes you think it's "extremely unlikely" that this virus was developed in a lab, and who do you think you're agreeing with?
> “It was very unlikely that anything could escape from such a place,” Ben Embarek said during the Feb. 9 WHO press conference, citing the team’s discussions with Wuhan lab officials about their safety protocols and audits. “If you look at the history of lab accidents, these are extremely rare events.”
> Yet lab accidents aren’t rare.
> What’s rare are accidents causing documented outbreaks. But those have happened, including in 2004 when two researchers at a lab in Beijing unknowingly became infected with another type of SARS coronavirus, sparking a small outbreak that killed one person.
> In the weeks since leaving Wuhan, the WHO’s team has been questioned about its independence and depth, including by the Biden administration, amid media reports that China denied the team access to raw data on possible COVID-19 cases that were identified during the earliest part of the outbreak.
> “We have deep concerns about the way in which the early findings of the COVID-19 investigation were communicated and questions about the process used to reach them,” White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan said in a statement last month. “It is imperative that this report be independent, with expert findings free from intervention or alteration by the Chinese government.”
Why is the distinction between development and manufacturing relevant here? Have you read the article?
Re: Why the Wuhan lab leak theory shouldn't be dismissed
#4For anyone who wants to set their Bayesian priors to estimate the probability of a lab leak I recommend this list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incident...
For example, the SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV-1) escaped from the lab twice, both in 2003 and 2004.
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#5In fact, it is very likely that the virus was brought to China by American soldiers during the military Games held in Wuhan, because there have been patients with similar pneumonia in the United States for a long time, but it has not been taken seriously. It just happened that the Spring Festival travel rush in China led to the widespread outbreak of the virus and was widely paid attention to
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#6Related - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26389690
(In 2018, US Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus Experiments in a Wuhan Lab - politico.com)
Re: Why the Wuhan lab leak theory shouldn't be dismissed
#7I’m sure everyone here can appreciate the difference between development and manufacturing. While I agree that it’s extremely unlikely that a lab developed this virus, it’s far more plausible for one to have manufactured it.
What makes you think it's "extremely unlikely" that this virus was developed in a lab, and who do you think you're agreeing with? > “It was very unlikely that anything could escape from such a place,” Ben Embarek said during the Feb. 9 WHO press conference, citing the team’s discussions with Wuhan lab officials about their safety protocols and audits. “If you look at the history of lab accidents, these are extremely…
While I agree with your statement, please do not insinuate or ask if the commenter has read the article. It is against the rules. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Re: Why the Wuhan lab leak theory shouldn't be dismissed
#8In fact, it is very likely that the virus was brought to China by American soldiers during the military Games held in Wuhan, because there have been patients with similar pneumonia in the United States for a long time, but it has not been taken seriously. It just happened that the Spring Festival travel rush in China led to the widespread outbreak of the virus and was widely paid attention to
Are you joking?
> Account created 2 minutes ago
Interesting.
Re: Why the Wuhan lab leak theory shouldn't be dismissed
#9In fact, it is very likely that the virus was brought to China by American soldiers during the military Games held in Wuhan, because there have been patients with similar pneumonia in the United States for a long time, but it has not been taken seriously. It just happened that the Spring Festival travel rush in China led to the widespread outbreak of the virus and was widely paid attention to
Long before the virus was discovered in China, many people died in the United States because of the mysterious e-cigarette. Now it seems that these people are probably suffering from the new crown virus, but no one noticed it at that time.
Re: Why the Wuhan lab leak theory shouldn't be dismissed
#10In fact, it is very likely that the virus was brought to China by American soldiers during the military Games held in Wuhan, because there have been patients with similar pneumonia in the United States for a long time, but it has not been taken seriously. It just happened that the Spring Festival travel rush in China led to the widespread outbreak of the virus and was widely paid attention to
Are you joking? > Account created 2 minutes ago Interesting.
The "virus brought in by foreign soldiers during 2019 Military World Games" is a widely used narrative in government of China propaganda.
It's understandable that many people believe it.
It's not just paid trolls ("wumao") who believe this, but even normal people are susceptible to spreading such falsehoods.