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Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF

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Post by exikyut »

Aloha wrote: post #366
exikyut wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's both practically sad and scientifically ridiculously fascinating is that the cognitive dissonance goes both ways. See also, furry culture representation in general.

I'm perfectly okay with us being presented as weird, it keeps the normal people away. ;-) Did you mean something else?

I remember reading someone come to roughly the same conclusion on /r/furry a while back, it was nice. So yeah, I do mostly mean that.

But the reason there was a bit of extra hesitancy there is that I straddle the line on socialization to the extent that while half my brain would probably love going to a con, the other half would basically be cognitive-dissonance-BSODing the entire time. And I'm not sure if repeating "surrealism is art, surrealism is art" would be enough to get me through; I'd probably end up deciding those three specific people over there were safe and hiding behind them the entire time, while simultaneously responding mostly neurotypically to all the social-cue whooshes as I watched them happen. (The missed cues would be what I was hiding from.)

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Post by noobermin »

I feel like a lot of the cancel culture whining coming from people on the right is silly, things like Dr. Seuss and what have you, but there are instances that aren't helpful or require more justification, like rms here or Alexi McCammond.

Furthermore, It's kind of funny seeing some folks defend rms who wouldn't defend him on anything else, particularly on some of his activist stances.

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Post by noobermin »

cryptica wrote: post #440
disgruntled101 wrote: post #430

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What you are saying here would get you cancelled 100 times over if you were a public person, sadly.

It goes to show that it's not regular people who create 'cancel culture'. It's the financial elite. They do it as means to push forward a financial agenda. If those who orchestrate the cancellations were who they portray themselves to be, the hypocrisy would be brain-splitting. The only reason their brain lobes are still attached together is because they know that they're being deceptive and it's part of an agenda. I…

I think some cancellations are driven by powerful people but I'd say most are definitely organic.

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Post by enriquto »

ejolto wrote: post #447
bryanrasmussen wrote: post #412

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also a Dane I think, frankly it seemed polite.

Also Scandinavian and I agree with you. Also Americans lying about these things are often seen as being fake and thus rude.

As a southern European, I concur that US-ian fake politeness is quite disturbing.

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Post by klodolph »

dehrmann wrote: post #334
dralley wrote: post #65

IMO, Stallman is a good philosophical leader, but a terrible organizational leader. "On the board" is a decent compromise. But he has been a huge contributor to GNU's decent into irrelevance in recent years. As an organization, they're perpetually stuck in the 1990s.

> he has been a huge contributor to GNU's decent into irrelevance in recent years. As an organization, they're perpetually stuck in the 1990s. I agree, but this reason, alone, is enough for him to be off the board. Maybe his time has passed, maybe free software has grown into something larger than he has vision for, maybe it grew in a way incompatible with his vision.

GNU, which develops software, should have separate leadership from the FSF, which does advocacy.

Stallman should have given up GNU long ago to someone better, but he’s much better at advocacy which is what the FSF does.

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Post by noobermin »

yc-kraln wrote: post #484

Big surprise, the white male suffers no real consequences. Just keep broadcasting the message, and asking why there are hardly any women or PoC in the industry.

It's kind of convenient to blame lack of cancellation for the lack of diversity in tech over say hiring preferences of tech companies. This attitude reminds me of that post about github's use of "master" a few days ago.

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Post by hmpiece »

hourislate wrote: post #59
Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #8

I think it is strange that, on the one hand, the tech world has been advocating for the rights of neurodivergent people – society should accept that people on the autism spectrum are different and that’s OK. But at the same time RMS has been attacked for some statements very probably stemming from his autism that, while they may seem a bit shocking and at odds with the mainstream, were not illegal or intentionally of…

It's sad that the media outlets and "Woke Twitter", etc, were misquoting him saying he was defending Jeffrey Epstein and doing everything they could to get him fired from the FSF, etc. What's even worse was none of these "WOKE" were even concerned with "the victims of sexual assault" or any other noble cause. This was organized for ideological reasons and their goal was and is to replace everyone in a relevant positi…

Indeed, the woke are nearly always lying in cancel cases (at the very least by omission, often directly) and engaging in blatant defamation.

Many cases could be taken to court, even in the USA with its relaxed defamation laws.

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Post by skissane »

wccrawford wrote: post #478
onion2k wrote: post #442

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moderate OCD People who claim to have "moderate OCD" are just people who like things being tidy, and describe it as OCD because they have no understanding of the real, debilitating condition. Describing yourself as "moderately obsessive" makes no sense, and being able to live with the untidiness means you are not compulsively tidying. A huge part of the problem with mental health problems is people using the terminol…

While I agree they don't fully understand OCD, I think they know enough about it to sympathize. They know enough to know they don't actually have it, just some light compulsions. And as for "moderately obese"... I wouldn't have previously described myself that way, but I fit it. My doctor tells me I'm medically obese. Nobody looking at me would describe me that way, but they would admit that I'm over-weight. They all…

> And as for "moderately obese"... I wouldn't have previously described myself that way, but I fit it.

Obesity is divided into 3 classes: class 1 (low-risk, BMI 30.0 to 34.9), class 2 (moderate-risk, 35.0 to 39.9), class 3 (high risk, 40.0 or higher). Using the term "moderate obesity" for class 2 obesity may not be exactly standard, but it has some logic to it.

> I clearly don't have "OCD", but what do I have? There's no word for it.

Is it possible you have subclinical OCD?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18849913/

(Or maybe subclinical OCPD?)

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Post by paganel »

mkl wrote: post #439
paganel wrote: post #370

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> or if I should wave to someone I've met twice if they're 15 feet away walking towards me. To be honest, nobody knows for sure. I call these "Seinfeld moments", as in you could make an entire Seinfeld episode out of talking about it: should I have waived? If yes, I did waive, why didn't the other person waive back? Was it because he/she didn't see me? Was it because he/she did in fact see me but didn't like me? etc.

"Wave". "Waive" is something entirely different: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/waive But maybe Seinfeld could have made an episode about your version too.

Thanks for that correction, non-native English speaker commenting before my usual morning coffee.
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