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Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF

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Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF

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Post by compiler-guy »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #8

I think it is strange that, on the one hand, the tech world has been advocating for the rights of neurodivergent people – society should accept that people on the autism spectrum are different and that’s OK. But at the same time RMS has been attacked for some statements very probably stemming from his autism that, while they may seem a bit shocking and at odds with the mainstream, were not illegal or intentionally of…

It wasn’t just a few statements. It is a constellation of issues that make him very hard to interact with.

A few final statements did bring him down, but he had been chipping at the foundation for years.

Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF

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Post by Mediterraneo10 »

compiler-guy wrote: post #11
Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #8

I think it is strange that, on the one hand, the tech world has been advocating for the rights of neurodivergent people – society should accept that people on the autism spectrum are different and that’s OK. But at the same time RMS has been attacked for some statements very probably stemming from his autism that, while they may seem a bit shocking and at odds with the mainstream, were not illegal or intentionally of…

It wasn’t just a few statements. It is a constellation of issues that make him very hard to interact with. A few final statements did bring him down, but he had been chipping at the foundation for years.

Again, maybe it was "hard to interact with him" only if one was unwilling to accept his difference?

Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF

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Post by JohnHaugeland »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #12
compiler-guy wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn’t just a few statements. It is a constellation of issues that make him very hard to interact with. A few final statements did bring him down, but he had been chipping at the foundation for years.

Again, maybe it was "hard to interact with him" only if one was unwilling to accept his difference?

Please stop. He argued that pedophilia was okay.

Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF

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Post by Grimm1 »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #12
compiler-guy wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn’t just a few statements. It is a constellation of issues that make him very hard to interact with. A few final statements did bring him down, but he had been chipping at the foundation for years.

Again, maybe it was "hard to interact with him" only if one was unwilling to accept his difference?

Just because you accept someone's differences doesn't change that they may, to you, be difficult to interact with. It's saying this is potentially more difficult but because they're a human being deserving of treatment just like you want to be treated, you try to overcome the difficulty. Co-existing with people is difficult in the best of circumstances, pretending like our differences don't exist won't make that any easier.

I also don't really know all that much about Richard Stallman I just don't like the idea that if you accept someone for themselves all the difficulties of social cohesion magically disappear because it's untrue.

Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF

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Post by YorickPeterse »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #12
compiler-guy wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn’t just a few statements. It is a constellation of issues that make him very hard to interact with. A few final statements did bring him down, but he had been chipping at the foundation for years.

Again, maybe it was "hard to interact with him" only if one was unwilling to accept his difference?

This is just the same excuse as the age old "Boys will be boys" excuse. Just because somebody is different doesn't mean they can be a creep and general unpleasant person to work with, without there eventually being repercussions.

Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF

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Post by ruined »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #8

I think it is strange that, on the one hand, the tech world has been advocating for the rights of neurodivergent people – society should accept that people on the autism spectrum are different and that’s OK. But at the same time RMS has been attacked for some statements very probably stemming from his autism that, while they may seem a bit shocking and at odds with the mainstream, were not illegal or intentionally of…

plenty of autistic people manage to be decent. making excuses like this simply dodges responsibility and assigns bad credit to millions of autistic people who don't deserve it, and amounts to concern trolling.

Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF

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Post by winter_blue »

varispeed wrote: post #9

I wish FSF also started caring about the developers. Free software was and is a great idea, but unintended consequence is that it also facilitates exploitation of software developers by big corporations who from the perspective of FSF are just users as regular people. This means they make billions off of a software who someone built in their rented flat, living a modest life, sometimes struggling with bills, meanwhil…

Exactly this.

I love and support open source[1], but I don’t support all software being “free of cost”.

[1] Not the OSI definition of it.

Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF

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Post by henriquez »

ruined wrote: post #17
Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #8

I think it is strange that, on the one hand, the tech world has been advocating for the rights of neurodivergent people – society should accept that people on the autism spectrum are different and that’s OK. But at the same time RMS has been attacked for some statements very probably stemming from his autism that, while they may seem a bit shocking and at odds with the mainstream, were not illegal or intentionally of…

plenty of autistic people manage to be decent. making excuses like this simply dodges responsibility and assigns bad credit to millions of autistic people who don't deserve it, and amounts to concern trolling.

Your statement is analogous to saying “all autistic people are the same” which is itself very offensive.
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