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Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Bill Gates wrote about the impact of planting trees recently: > It sounds like a simple fix and it has obvious appeal for all of us who love trees, but its impact on climate change is overblown. Although trees absorb some carbon, they can never take in enough to offset the damage from our modern lifestyle. To absorb the lifetime emissions that will be produced by every American alive today — just 4 per cent of the gl…

Well fuck. Anyone know of a lobby as a service project?

The Coalition for Rainforest Nations might be good. This is recommended by this report: https://founderspledge.com/research/fp-climate-change

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Can people for once stop virtue signalling like plastic bags bans or estimating carbon footprint of bitcoin transactions and finally get to the root of the problem: fixing failed states? Because in the course of you planting a single tree some corrupt government destroys a whole ecosystem.

Yes please. Better representation in democracies, and real democracies where fake ones currently exist.

Does representation fix environmental issues? I know lots of people who don’t give a second thought about the environment.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Many of these tree planting schemes are a bit dubious; can you really be sure that they are planting new trees that wouldn't have grown in that area anyway, and will they still be around in 40 years time to make sure the trees grow to maturity and are not cut down and burned? The only tree planting scheme that I really trust is the Green Belt Movement: http://www.greenbeltmovement.org/ started over 40 years ago by Pr…

A lot of work is being done to make reforestation as transparent and sustainable as possible. In itself, it is no problem to record a world coordinate when planting the tree and later see if this tree is still there. The involved organizations are already working with such and similar solutions to avoid misuse. If you want to be 100% sure, you need to do it yourself: buy land, plant trees.

Yeah, but how do I know 9 other people didn't also pay for it?

How do I know it's not replaced by a new tree 30 years from now.

And so on.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Well fuck. Anyone know of a lobby as a service project?

Any APIs hosted by major cloud providers are LaaS, if you think about it.

Thought about it, still not getting it. I like the idea.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Someone should work on “YC21 Guilt shedding as a service” These “guilt shedding” projects rarely serve any good purpose. There is no way to track the end result. Same goes for donating wads of money to social justice projects. You still see homeless defecating and shooting needles despite “guilt shedding” by SV denizens. Meanwhile the grifters who run these guilt shedding projects get rich.

Thats overly cynical, especially for this project which is run by volunteers (100% of funds go through to charities). "Lets not bother to plant any trees, because there are still homeless people" is a great example of letting perfect be the enemy of good.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Before I sign up for this feel good thing, does anyone know whether it makes any meaningful difference/is enough to make any kind of impact? From looking at CO2 levels, we will be reaching 1000 ug/m^3 in my lifetime (threshold for headaches and other health problems). At 2000 it becomes a serious health hazard. Would money be better spent lobbying for abolishing coal burning power plants and making agriculture more c…

Things are so dire that even if we use all "guns" in our disposal it will be difficult. There is no single solutions that can help, amount of CO2 is so huge that if we would turn CO2 we need to sequester into graphite bricks we could build a wall 10 meters high and 5 meters wide encircling the Earth around Equator 32 times. So, we need all we can think at same time, now. :/ Simply, current amount of carbon in the atm…

Note that cutting trees is not a problem, as long as the wood isn't allowed to convert back to CO₂.

So how do we sequester large amounts of wood for a century at least?

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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A lot of work is being done to make reforestation as transparent and sustainable as possible. In itself, it is no problem to record a world coordinate when planting the tree and later see if this tree is still there. The involved organizations are already working with such and similar solutions to avoid misuse. If you want to be 100% sure, you need to do it yourself: buy land, plant trees.

Yeah, but how do I know 9 other people didn't also pay for it? How do I know it's not replaced by a new tree 30 years from now. And so on.

Through transparency. these are not difficult problems to solve at all. Unless you are the type of person who doesn’t have a bank account because “the company might run away with my money, and how can I trust them?!” then you have to accept that a company doing this can easily provide verifiable documentation, go through independent audits and carry out the operation which is extremely simple in comparison to financial institutions.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Civilization is build around the existing climate and the cost of re-building around a new climate will be very very large. For example, most cities are near bodies of water and rising sea water will threaten them. So we have to either move a lot of cities (to now scarcer land) or build massive walls around them (that need to survive hurricanes in many areas). There's also thing we don't fully control like the ecosys…

"Civilization is build around the existing climate and the cost of re-building around a new climate will be very very large " But the climate will change over decades and centuries. People move, nation's build and rebuild, and crops change over centuries, climate change or not. Think how different the world and human diet was in 1900 compared to today. I think a lot of people look at climate change as a war, where bu…

Why do you think people will slowly react over decades rather than putting things off until the last possible moment when they have no choice but to adjust very quickly? If humanity could plan over decades without short term need driving them then climate change wouldn't be an issue in the first place.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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"Civilization is build around the existing climate and the cost of re-building around a new climate will be very very large " But the climate will change over decades and centuries. People move, nation's build and rebuild, and crops change over centuries, climate change or not. Think how different the world and human diet was in 1900 compared to today. I think a lot of people look at climate change as a war, where bu…

Why do you think people will slowly react over decades rather than putting things off until the last possible moment when they have no choice but to adjust very quickly? If humanity could plan over decades without short term need driving them then climate change wouldn't be an issue in the first place.

You don't need to plan decades in advance to switch out one crop for another between growing seasons or to build a seawall.
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