Whales in 19th century shared information about ship attacks
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Whales in 19th century shared information about ship attacks
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#2Seems got only 1/2 of the story. Ma be it is a story in making. As life is.
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#3Fascinating that they responded to the 19th-century whalers by swimming upwind to escape their murderers. Sadly this escape failed as ships went fossil.
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#5Sperm Whales Clicking You Inside Out — James Nestor at The Interval - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsDwFGz0Okg
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#6> As Whitehead observes, whale culture is many millions of years older than ours.
Oh? How old is our culture?
What were whales doing a million years ago that primates weren't that qualifies as culture?
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#7> As Whitehead observes, whale culture is many millions of years older than ours. Oh? How old is our culture? What were whales doing a million years ago that primates weren't that qualifies as culture?
Whales can communicate with dolphins as well as other caetacians of various species. Can you communicate with chimpanzees or apes? It is quite possible that, via communication, whale culture actually is millions of years older than ours...kept alive by communicating with species as they evolve.
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#8> As Whitehead observes, whale culture is many millions of years older than ours. Oh? How old is our culture? What were whales doing a million years ago that primates weren't that qualifies as culture?
Joseph Henrich, a professor of human biological evolution as Harvard, has some pretty good theories on the subject.
He defines culture as, ”the large body of practices, techniques, heuristics, tools, motivations, values, and beliefs that we all acquire while growing up, mostly by learning from other people.”
He estimates that our ability to use culture started at perhaps a million or so years ago, maybe a bit more, maybe hundreds of thousands of years ago.
This article challenges his ideas bit since he seems to think that culture is unique to our species, and in contrast these researches of course claim wales have it too.
I think the largest point of contention may lie in the definition of culture. Does the ability to communicate danger really amount to “culture”?
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#9> As Whitehead observes, whale culture is many millions of years older than ours. Oh? How old is our culture? What were whales doing a million years ago that primates weren't that qualifies as culture?
Whales can communicate with dolphins as well as other caetacians of various species. Can you communicate with chimpanzees or apes? It is quite possible that, via communication, whale culture actually is millions of years older than ours...kept alive by communicating with species as they evolve.
There are humans who can communicate somewhat effectively with chimpanzees using sign language, does that mean humans now have access to the several hundred year old chimp culture? I don’t think so.
Anyway, while we can assume that whales and dolphins have exhibited advanced behaviors throughout the time their species existed do we have any evidence that these behaviors did not develop independently in different populations and were lost or recreated again over those millions of years?
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#10> As Whitehead observes, whale culture is many millions of years older than ours. Oh? How old is our culture? What were whales doing a million years ago that primates weren't that qualifies as culture?
Joseph Henrich, a professor of human biological evolution as Harvard, has some pretty good theories on the subject. He defines culture as, ”the large body of practices, techniques, heuristics, tools, motivations, values, and beliefs that we all acquire while growing up, mostly by learning from other people.” He estimates that our ability to use culture started at perhaps a million or so years ago, maybe a bit more, m…
I love the "Wales" typo, here. :)