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John Cleese Sells the Brooklyn Bridge as an NFT

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Re: John Cleese Sells the Brooklyn Bridge as an NFT

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Some people in this thread talk about "bragging rights". I am genuinely curious if anyone would be impressed by someone bragging about purchasing this NFT, or know anyone who would be impressed. I wouldn't and can't think of anyone I know who would, the emotional response would probably just be of frustration at the absurd amount of money being spent, much like bragging about any large value novelty purchase.

If someone bragged about spending 50 grand on the idea that they own something that doesn't exist if the lights go out, I would use that as signal that said person would be a good mark for a scam. Highly gullible, a bit dim and has money to burn.

Re: John Cleese Sells the Brooklyn Bridge as an NFT

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> Do you think nobody wants the bragging rights of owning that? It would be nice to believe that eventually we evolve beyond bragging about being an idiot. > I certainly do ...

> Maybe NFTs will not endure, which is a risk for anyone playing a pioneering role in a new genre. That is why the price was not $200 million or more. In any case, this is a world in which Marcel Duchamp’s urinal sculpture still is exhibited in major museums, regarded by many critics as a masterpiece of the 20th century, and it sold at auction for $1.6 million in 2002. Canvases painted a single color, and other forms…

People doubting that a thing is actually art at all seems to be a fairly consistent marker of something being good art.

It's fresh, it's pushing boundaries, it's making people think and wonder, it's generating snark and discussion.

If readymades are art, if a blank canvas is art, then art is just a scam!

Not sure if it will stand the test of time though (I mean technically in terms of the artifacts persisting, and conceptually, aka whether it will still be interesting in 10 years or seen as a fad).

Re: John Cleese Sells the Brooklyn Bridge as an NFT

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This is a perfect example of what NFTs really are, a mechanism to monetize attention, not ownership. Yes, they could be used to represent ownership; but, that's not what the current incarnation actually is.

Anyone could have made a Brooklyn Bridge NFT (I've seen many make this joke). But, the value of the NFT is based on who is selling it and how compelling the narrative around the NFT is.

The valuation of the NFT is going to be based entirely on expectations of growth of future attention to the minter of the NFT. The market for them is going to consist primarily of a person that is a speculator first, collector second.

With that said, I think that people are wildly overpricing expectations of future attention for most of these. So there will be a correction. But, I don't think they are a fad, as long as gamblers exist so will NFTs.

Re: John Cleese Sells the Brooklyn Bridge as an NFT

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Thanks I've been looking for a PoS blockchain in production. Will check this out. Do you know any others? I really enjoy NFTs conceptually, much more than crypto in general actually, and I really don't get a lot of the hate. If you remove the emissions aspect (which is the non-starter for me), I think it's so cool that there is a way to create scarcity in the digital world, even if that scarcity is totally "meaningle…

Cardano is a production proof-of-stake blockchain. It has the fifth-largest market cap. However, Ethereum has virtually monopolized the DeFi space. It is supposed to move to PoS, especially considering that transaction fees are insanely high due to recent demand.

You can't even run a hello world on cardano yet. but it has that market cap, with the expectancy that all users who buy in now will become super rich soon (Tm)

Re: John Cleese Sells the Brooklyn Bridge as an NFT

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You should consider an NFT to be something like a certificate. Some entity has issued you a certificate saying, e.g. you are the rightful owner of the Brooklyn Bridge. The value of certificates in NFT form is that they are difficult to forge and easy to verify. However, like a paper certificate that you might hang on your wall, the actual certificate is worthless. It is representative of something that may have value…

"e.g. you are the rightful owner of the Brooklyn Bridge."

I note that this whole NFT thing is bollocks but you are only buying an image of the Brooklyn Bridge not the bridge itself.

This is not the same as a bloke pretending to flog the real bridge to you. That is why John Cleese picked that bridge because it was famously "sold" several times to victims of fraud.

When I say bollocks, that is too trite as well. NFT means non fungible token and yet it clearly is "fungible" in some way. I generate one and sell it to you. The blockchain "proves" the transfer of ownership.

Fiat (let it be) money is on pretty shaky ground as well and yet we live with the fibs and outright lies and get on with trade. If you look at the recent GME trading stuff and break it down into the various components - start with "what on earth is a USD?", it all rapidly gets a bit mad. Work your way up through what a short is or even what a simple stock trade actually means and then perhaps look at how the trades are trued up every few days and other weirdness.

Calling out NFTs as bollocks is a bit off. Fiat money and stocks n that are basically a game with a lot of rules, a lot of rules. It is possible that some of those rules are made up on the fly by the banker and the banker may not be who you think they are.

That said, I don't see myself using crypto coins. I mined over one BT back in the day and lost the wallet on my Pentium II when I dumped err recycled it. At the time it was worth a few quid - the BT that is. I really won't buy a NFT unless I suddenly find my NW in the millions and I get bored.

Now Mr Cleese's piccy of the bridge does look quite tasty ... copy, paste .... delete. 8)

Re: John Cleese Sells the Brooklyn Bridge as an NFT

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It was mentioned in the original link here, it's just that the link was changed to the tweet which doesn't explain the backstory.

Would you link this original link?

From further down in this thread: https://decrypt.co/62217/monty-pythons-john-cleese-mints-bro...

Re: John Cleese Sells the Brooklyn Bridge as an NFT

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I don't have a Twitter account. Is there another way to see the video?

I got "This is not available to you" or something like that, which I've never seen before. A few refreshes later (I also don't have a twitter) it worked though.

For me, this was caused by a buggy service worker; unregistering the service worker (from about:debugging > "This Firefox" > "Service Workers" on Firefox, dunno how on Chrome) should fix the issue

Re: John Cleese Sells the Brooklyn Bridge as an NFT

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> (Leaving aside the carbon emissions - let's assume everyone finally switches to Proof of Stake) I don't know how you get to defend something when you're sidestepping the biggest problem with NFTs. I'm fine with stupid and pointless things as long as your stupid and pointless things don't wreck the environment. If someone decides to poison the local water supply because it's an "art project" they still poisoned the…

> I'm fine with stupid and pointless things as long as your stupid and pointless things don't wreck the environment. I hang up decorative lights around Christmas time. Is that not okay with you, or do you not find it pointless?

I think in 1-2 generations people will look back and wonder about how dumb we were about our energy consumption regarding the environmental challenges we were facing.

Most of ou current Christmas folklore is pretty pointless lights being a pretty recent invention when compared to christian religion timespan. Same as for Christmas trees, they were pretty much on point when everybody had a wood stove to throw them in after Christmas and warm the house. Pretty pointless nowaday when you live in a flat...

Re: John Cleese Sells the Brooklyn Bridge as an NFT

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IMO NFT are a path to the commoditisation of belief and the communities which spring up around shared beliefs. Imagine if QAnon were to launch their own, with the proof of patriotism baked in to your online in or if some religion reinvented the indulgence. These would probably be done on their own coinbase.

Don’t give them ideas!

I haven't even mentioned intangible secessionist states setting up auto-resolving contracts systems and laws, taxation, etc.
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