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Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Post by IngvarLynn »

jarenmf wrote: post #70
IngvarLynn wrote: post #58

Can people for once stop virtue signalling like plastic bags bans or estimating carbon footprint of bitcoin transactions and finally get to the root of the problem: fixing failed states? Because in the course of you planting a single tree some corrupt government destroys a whole ecosystem.

Biggest carbon emitters are industrialized western democracies. Unless you are considering them as failed states, your argument is not correct

First this is absolutely can not be true from purely logical reasoning. And You can check up yourself by hitting the very first search result.

But most importantly You're completely missing the point which was not about carbon footprint or forests or plastic.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Post by Trasmatta »

11235813213455 wrote: post #67

We can also think of using less CIs and automated jobs as beneficial for environment (less energy used, ..)

This would likely be an insignificant blip in terms of the world's total energy and CO2 output. I think focusing on those types of micro-optimizations is unhelpful as they don't make any meaningful difference, and take up way too much attention. It's like making people feel guilty for taking a shower in a drought, when residential water use is less than 1%. Every person could go the rest of their lives never again taking a shower, and it wouldn't make a difference.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Post by Trasmatta »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #62
IngvarLynn wrote: post #58

Can people for once stop virtue signalling like plastic bags bans or estimating carbon footprint of bitcoin transactions and finally get to the root of the problem: fixing failed states? Because in the course of you planting a single tree some corrupt government destroys a whole ecosystem.

This argument is never productive. I can use fewer plastic bags. I can plant trees (or pay to plant trees, whatever). I can't fix a failed state. Offer actionable and measurable alternatives.

> I can't fix a failed state

No, but you can get involved politically, and support policies and legislation that will make a difference.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Post by DigitalHumani »

tgv wrote: post #30
underdeserver wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is less overhead. Sign up once, then just add a single REST call to your billing flow.

Except there is now a middleman that also wants part of the cash. The only advantage I see is that it's impossible for one of the CFO's bootlickers to kill the payment without anyone else knowing. Edit: apparently digitalhumani doesn't cream off.

Hi, Jonathan here, founder of the RaaS (Reforestation as a Service) at DigitalHumani.com

Our solution is 100% free. We are a group of IT-oriented volunteers concerned about climate change, and we pay ourselves for the costs of the solution (which is quite cheap though).

Our RaaS (Reforestation as a Service) API was built because most reforestation organizations do not have APIs. These organizations know lot about trees, climate and reforestation, less so about IT. We help them get the money they need to plant the trees (1$ per tree) by providing the API for free.

The API is used in lots of ways right now by our clients: Planting a tree when someone subscribes to a newsletter, buys something, refer a friend for a mobile app, fills a survey, charge their electric car, etc.

It is much easier for our clients to just choose a reforestation project they want to donate to and add the call to the API in their code.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Post by dillondoyle »

IngvarLynn wrote: post #65
thaumaturgy wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This argument is never productive. I can use fewer plastic bags. I can plant trees (or pay to plant trees, whatever). I can't fix a failed state. Offer actionable and measurable alternatives.

You can plant a tree but You can't plant a forest. You can't fix a failed state. But You can educate yourself (and others) on what the hell is happening with this world and vote for representative that cares.

One man did plant a forest!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadav_Payeng

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/12/26/572421590/...

I agree with what you are saying but I think it can also extend to planting trees, use the power you do have and vote which can make big change beyond ourselves.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Post by DigitalHumani »

mdoms wrote: post #54

If you want to plant a tree, plant a tree. I have no faith that these jokers will ever actually plant the ordered number of trees.

Hi, Jonathan here, founder of the RaaS (Reforestation as a Service) at DigitalHumani.com

We only work with trusted reforestation organizations (6 so far) and you can choose which one to work with.

Planting a tree is not that complicated, I agree, but for lots of us working in cities, it is not that easy. Finding the right species, buying the shovel and the tree, taking care of it, etc. More complicated to have tens of them planted though.

I'd rather send 1$ to a farmer in Belize (as an example) that will be very happy to get that dollar to plant a tree that will give him and his family fruits.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Post by 11235813213455 »

Trasmatta wrote: post #72
11235813213455 wrote: post #67

We can also think of using less CIs and automated jobs as beneficial for environment (less energy used, ..)

This would likely be an insignificant blip in terms of the world's total energy and CO2 output. I think focusing on those types of micro-optimizations is unhelpful as they don't make any meaningful difference, and take up way too much attention. It's like making people feel guilty for taking a shower in a drought, when residential water use is less than 1%. Every person could go the rest of their lives never again ta…

Your way of thinking is very common, not wrong, but terrible, why?

The world's total energy and CO2 output is simply the addition of each human footprint, all industries, transports are more or less directly related to the human end-consumer. So if everyone decide like you that their own behavior is insignificant, which is true, nothing is changing, and as you know the current trend on environment is not sustainable. I don't use a car, I don't use air-conditioning, I find natural methods and alternatives for most things, and product to reduce my footprint, and I hope everyone at some point will do that, because it'd change everything if everyone cut by a half their footprint, it's like twice less humans.

My comment on CI is half-serious, but I still avoid to put many OS/enviroment targets (for example just Linux/nodejs-14 is enough) and just running in on the main git branch

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Post by sterlind »

IgorPartola wrote: post #42
ubuwaits wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bill Gates wrote about the impact of planting trees recently: > It sounds like a simple fix and it has obvious appeal for all of us who love trees, but its impact on climate change is overblown. Although trees absorb some carbon, they can never take in enough to offset the damage from our modern lifestyle. To absorb the lifetime emissions that will be produced by every American alive today — just 4 per cent of the gl…

Well fuck. Anyone know of a lobby as a service project?

Any APIs hosted by major cloud providers are LaaS, if you think about it.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Post by jk7tarYZAQNpTQa »

IngvarLynn wrote: post #65
thaumaturgy wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This argument is never productive. I can use fewer plastic bags. I can plant trees (or pay to plant trees, whatever). I can't fix a failed state. Offer actionable and measurable alternatives.

You can plant a tree but You can't plant a forest. You can't fix a failed state. But You can educate yourself (and others) on what the hell is happening with this world and vote for representative that cares.

> You can plant a tree but You can't plant a forest.

Of course you can plant a forest. But there's no need to. If each one of us plant 1 tree per month, we would be planting thousands of forests as a result of our team effort.

We need an international Tree Planting Day. And we need to celebrate the fuck out of it.

Re: Show HN: Make continuous reforestation part of your daily workflow

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Post by C06aka »

As a point of confusion, what is the obsession with planting trees? With little human intervention, outside of climate change, the earth is experiencing mass afforestation. There's been something like a 20% increase in plant matter in the past 50 years, an area double the size of the continental united states, due to warmer, wetter climate and a longer growing season. Is it the forest fires that have people concerned? That's largely due to this explosive growth and poor forest management. It's been a few years since I looked at the numbers but if I remember correctly, creating a 10-100x increase in wood product consumption (different wood products sequester different amounts of carbon) while preventing all forest fires globally would offset all human carbon emissions.
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