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AARD Code, or how Bill Gates finished off the competition

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Re: AARD Code, or how Bill Gates finished off the competition

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Never forget: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO%E2%80%93Linux_disputes#Mic...

"My most memorable moment at Microsoft came during a technical review with Bill Gates. I will never forget the moment when I made an apparently obvious point to him. He responded, "What? Do you think I'm stupid?" Everyone was staring at me, and I felt it best not to answer." Microsoft is hiring! source: https://web.archive.org/web/20120311005018/http://www.seattl... https://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/01/business/compres…

Neither of your cited sources contains the quote.

Re: AARD Code, or how Bill Gates finished off the competition

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"My most memorable moment at Microsoft came during a technical review with Bill Gates. I will never forget the moment when I made an apparently obvious point to him. He responded, "What? Do you think I'm stupid?" Everyone was staring at me, and I felt it best not to answer." Microsoft is hiring! source: https://web.archive.org/web/20120311005018/http://www.seattl... https://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/01/business/compres…

Neither of your cited sources contains the quote.

The quote comes from page 6 of the Seattle Weekly article. Perhaps you missed it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20121026013653/http://www.seattl...

Re: AARD Code, or how Bill Gates finished off the competition

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The problem with that metaphor is it implies 100% of microsoft's profits only exist because of theft. Their software added legitimate value to people's lives. It still does - Outlook & the office suite are still world class at what they do. DirectX pushed the stagnant OpenGL to innovate. Visual studio is fantastic (miles better than current XCode). C# is a worthy successor to Java. VS Code is excellent too. And so is…

> Outlook & the office suite are still world class at what they do. Yep, corporate GMail had made me detest email, but corporate Outlook made me stop using it. Also, Outlook for Mac was the only app that I had to actually quit before sleeping a macbook or the battery would die in my bag. Nothing else could compare. On the server side, nothing mutilates mail quite like Exchange, although recent versions aren't as good…

Thats nice for you. Personally I use Apple Pages to compose word documents.

But this isn't about us. The question is whether Microsoft's products add real value to their customers. From your nephew with an xbox, to devs in the C# ecosystem, to office workers who use word and excel to get their work done the answer is obviously yes.

Re: AARD Code, or how Bill Gates finished off the competition

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You might also find 'Embrace, extend, and extinguish' interesting. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...

China is following that playbook now. Hello America let me embrace you, hey let me do some more stuff for you... well it was nice knowing you see you later!

Re: AARD Code, or how Bill Gates finished off the competition

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But the headline is "How Bill Gates finished off the competition". How is it possible to finish off the competition by deploying code that is never even executed once?

As you see in the article, it did ship. but only in the beta version that was sent out to testers and journalists before the actual launch. Normal users never saw it but the people who were informing the users about the product did.

Then when Windows 95 shipped it would not work with Dr Dos even though it was a shell on top of dos.

Re: AARD Code, or how Bill Gates finished off the competition

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> "bundling" Windows 95 with MS-DOS (Win95 was a DOS overlay, but installed Microsoft DOS by default, even though DR-DOS could very well have acted as a "shim"). It would be more accurate to say DOS is an overlay on Windows 95, once Windows 95 has booted. The DOS façade may be so convincing that the OS seems to be running on DOS, but that's the exact opposite of the truth: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/2…

I don’t think this is quite right ... it was a fully fledged DOS (aka DOS 7) that ran first, described in your linked article as the “bootloader” what you are thinking of is the dos box that is described later, and maybe there is some confusion with Windows NT. I myself many times booted to the pure DOS environment many times using boot disks as some games around that time weren’t facilitated by the emulated DOS environment...

Re: AARD Code, or how Bill Gates finished off the competition

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The last time I remember hearing about this was in the excellent book "Undocumented DOS":

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/603860.Undocumented_DOS

I'd already done a little reverse engineering, writing a simple "undelete" utility for MS-DOS 3.3, etc, but that book opened my eyes to a lot of the hidden complexity in DOS.

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