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Re: Nyxt Browser

#61

Nyxt seems amazing, but it's hard for me to imagine using a browser without Ublock Origin. I understand that it doesn't really make sense for everyone to support webextensions, and it's a huge amount of extra work, but it's just a huge barrier to adoption. It's hard to trust the smaller browsers to keep me private online if there isn't something that gives me that same level of control over blocking. And there's a hu…

It makes a lot more sense to ad block system wide than to expect every bit of software you use to implement extensions to allow you to do it. There are plenty of services like AdGuard and Lockdown, they can use the same lists that ublock uses, and you protect not just your browser but your email and everything else you use. Some routers will let you do something similar, and you can add a pihole to your network if yo…

It would be great to move adblocking to an OS/network level, but DNS blocking just isn't comparable to what a browser-level adblocker does.

To get to the point where I would feel comfortable having my OS handle browser blocking, a reasonable chunk web browser functionality would need to be moved out of the browser and onto the OS. I just don't see that happening any time soon, and I'm not sure that's the direction we would want to move with browsers anyway.

Ublock Origin will do things like stub Javascript methods on the page. A Piihole can't do that. And even for simple things like blocking requests based on the current domain -- the movement towards DoH and SNI are going to make that harder and harder as time progresses. You really need an interface that has insight into not just what requests you're making, but where/why you're making them.

Not to say that system wide blockers don't have value, but they're really there for the apps that can't handle their own adblocking. They're a defense in depth for the requests that slip through other parts of your setup, but they're not a good replacement for a browser extension.

Re: Nyxt Browser

#63

Nyxt seems amazing, but it's hard for me to imagine using a browser without Ublock Origin. I understand that it doesn't really make sense for everyone to support webextensions, and it's a huge amount of extra work, but it's just a huge barrier to adoption. It's hard to trust the smaller browsers to keep me private online if there isn't something that gives me that same level of control over blocking. And there's a hu…

Actually I would invert the problem: I wish nyxt itself were a webextension. IME Using a WebKit forks (or whatever) will always eventually be insufficient.

Re: Nyxt Browser

#64
post #57

So I compiled the prerelease today. There were a number of hiccups with the process but nothing big, and I managed to get it running. On first load you have a tutorial, and a menu to select the session. There's only one session so it should default to that. There is no way to click the menus like there is in Emacs, so I have to type Default in full each load. Running "vi-normal-mode" doesn't switch the keybindings, a…

Quick website thing: Some part of the site crashes my iPad browser about half-way down. Feels like a lazy-load call.

Re: Nyxt Browser

#65

Nyxt seems amazing, but it's hard for me to imagine using a browser without Ublock Origin. I understand that it doesn't really make sense for everyone to support webextensions, and it's a huge amount of extra work, but it's just a huge barrier to adoption. It's hard to trust the smaller browsers to keep me private online if there isn't something that gives me that same level of control over blocking. And there's a hu…

It makes a lot more sense to ad block system wide than to expect every bit of software you use to implement extensions to allow you to do it. There are plenty of services like AdGuard and Lockdown, they can use the same lists that ublock uses, and you protect not just your browser but your email and everything else you use. Some routers will let you do something similar, and you can add a pihole to your network if yo…

Is AdGuard/Lockown the same as PiHole or do they do different things?

Re: Nyxt Browser

#66

Nyxt seems amazing, but it's hard for me to imagine using a browser without Ublock Origin. I understand that it doesn't really make sense for everyone to support webextensions, and it's a huge amount of extra work, but it's just a huge barrier to adoption. It's hard to trust the smaller browsers to keep me private online if there isn't something that gives me that same level of control over blocking. And there's a hu…

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Re: Nyxt Browser

#68
post #21

Looks like qutebrowser in many ways. https://qutebrowser.org/

And Qutebrowser implements ABP-style ad blocking since v2.0.0, which a lot of sibling comments are concerned about. Whereas Nyxt still only has host-based blocking, if I'm reading blocker-mode.lisp correctly.

Even with ABP-style adblocking enabled, I couldn't get it to block ads as effectively as uBlock Origin could. This was a big negative in my book.

Re: Nyxt Browser

#70
post #38

The "lossless tree history" is an amazing feature to have. I have yet to find a modern, usable replacement for the Norwell History Tool XUL extension for older Firefox versions. It allowed one to see browsing as it happened in a logical, orderly timeline instead of a collection of URLs and their last accessed value, so that you could see for example what webpage led to another. I wish this project success for allowin…

You can emulate that by opening tabs only in new tabs. It works fine for <10 tabs.

It also works fine for >10 tabs.

For example, my last browsing session only became unusable (16GB RAM + 8GB swap 100% used, machine OOMing renderers, system freezing for about a minute or two at a time) after I reached about 1,081 tabs.

:(

I find it a huge pity that tab serialization never went anywhere :'( https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2015/09/tab-discar... it would basically have let you have 10,000 tabs open

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