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Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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#31

I really like Telegram and these features but I don’t use it because they don’t have end2end encryption as default. Also you can’t create a secret group chat that you can start from your phone and continue from your Mac.

Just out of curiosity, what kind of discussion do you have that require e2e?

Myself I use TG extensively with friends, family, girlfriend and I think I've used secret chats once when the gf wanted to send a naughty photo.

It's not that I don't have anything to hide, it's just I choose what to say according to the environment and I feel the features of telegram far outweigh the con of not having e2e at all times.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're 100% right. I'm just worried that by going more "social", chances increase of Telegram going the same way as WhatsApp and Instagram.

Getting bought by Facebook for billions?

Personally I rather it didn't, yes. Being sold to Facebook just means I have yet to switch messengers again.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#33

I really like Telegram and these features but I don’t use it because they don’t have end2end encryption as default. Also you can’t create a secret group chat that you can start from your phone and continue from your Mac.

Just out of curiosity, what kind of discussion do you have that require e2e? Myself I use TG extensively with friends, family, girlfriend and I think I've used secret chats once when the gf wanted to send a naughty photo. It's not that I don't have anything to hide, it's just I choose what to say according to the environment and I feel the features of telegram far outweigh the con of not having e2e at all times.

Oh no. No. “You have nothing to share.” E2e by default or GTFO. This isn’t about your secrets. It’s about making your regular discourse indistinguishable from secrets. There is no con to e2e, and many cons for snake oil/plaintext.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#34

I really like Telegram and these features but I don’t use it because they don’t have end2end encryption as default. Also you can’t create a secret group chat that you can start from your phone and continue from your Mac.

Just out of curiosity, what kind of discussion do you have that require e2e? Myself I use TG extensively with friends, family, girlfriend and I think I've used secret chats once when the gf wanted to send a naughty photo. It's not that I don't have anything to hide, it's just I choose what to say according to the environment and I feel the features of telegram far outweigh the con of not having e2e at all times.

> Just out of curiosity, what kind of discussion do you have that require e2e?

Where as your conversations couldn't possibly be made illegal by your government in the future?

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#35

Telegram has by far the best desktop experience from all messengers. Smallest memory footprint and snappy UI.

The simplest explanation for this is the fact that the desktop apps are native apps and not based on the massive and sluggish electron framework.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just out of curiosity, what kind of discussion do you have that require e2e? Myself I use TG extensively with friends, family, girlfriend and I think I've used secret chats once when the gf wanted to send a naughty photo. It's not that I don't have anything to hide, it's just I choose what to say according to the environment and I feel the features of telegram far outweigh the con of not having e2e at all times.

Oh no. No. “You have nothing to share.” E2e by default or GTFO. This isn’t about your secrets. It’s about making your regular discourse indistinguishable from secrets. There is no con to e2e, and many cons for snake oil/plaintext.

> There is no con to e2e, and many cons for snake oil/plaintext.

Is this true? From anecdata every e2e encrypted platform I used is much lower quality than the alternatives (iMessage, Signal, etc). Things like multi-device sync don’t work that well. Is this really just a coincidence? Telegram claims they can’t provide the same quality chat (and snappy cross platform crispness is really their competitive advantage) with e2e. Is this just a fake limitation?

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#37
post #35

Telegram has by far the best desktop experience from all messengers. Smallest memory footprint and snappy UI.

The simplest explanation for this is the fact that the desktop apps are native apps and not based on the massive and sluggish electron framework.

I don't think this necessarily has to hold true (Discord for instance have implemented their apps really well), but in reality this holds true for most electron apps in my experience.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#38
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The simplest explanation for this is the fact that the desktop apps are native apps and not based on the massive and sluggish electron framework.

I don't think this necessarily has to hold true (Discord for instance have implemented their apps really well), but in reality this holds true for most electron apps in my experience.

Didn't Discord rewrite the app in Rust a year or so ago?

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#39
post #35

Telegram has by far the best desktop experience from all messengers. Smallest memory footprint and snappy UI.

The simplest explanation for this is the fact that the desktop apps are native apps and not based on the massive and sluggish electron framework.

Even for a native app it seems to be well developed because, on Windows, for example I have it running at the moment and uses 25mb of ram, the most I've seen it at was 45mb.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#40
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This looks bloody neat - Clubhouse seemed annoying and exclusive, whereas Telegram feels a lot more inclusive.

Clubhouse is yet to release an Android app whilst their main competitors are already there and copying them quickly to death.

When the VC hype brigade knows that Clubhouse is losing steam, they will aggressively push for another company to acquire them or worse; they shut down.

Might as well remove the invite system now to allow the rest of the small iOS userbase in, I guess.

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