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Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser for user privacy

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Re: Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser for user privacy

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> (Conversely, if Safari refuses to implement some alleged 'feature', it becomes much less useful even if Chrome does implement it.)

Ah yes... such as push notifications. Firebase would be so much more useful if Safari supported push notifications...

Re: Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser for user privacy

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> (Conversely, if Safari refuses to implement some alleged 'feature', it becomes much less useful even if Chrome does implement it.) Ah yes... such as push notifications. Firebase would be so much more useful if Safari supported push notifications...

What do you mean by "useful"? I've been using Safari exclusively for years now and the lack of push notifications hasn't been a problem. It's actually good because it shields me from all kinds of shitty websites demanding notification permissions while having no good reason to send any.

Re: Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser for user privacy

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This is why, despite it being monopolistic, I hope Apple can continue their requirement on using Safari's rendering engine on iOS. It's the sole remaining defense against a far worse monopoly. Neither the Mozilla nor Edge teams have the backbone to resist Google's web platform initiatives.

Re: Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser for user privacy

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post #2

This announcement from last October is a huge deal. "Meet Face ID and Touch ID for the Web" https://webkit.org/blog/11312/meet-face-id-and-touch-id-for-...

Well, Safari and Chrome being the two giants in the room mean they also keep each other in check.

Safari may support Face ID and Touch ID, but I doubt it would be in anybody else's best interest to also support it.

Not that it matters anyway, since on iOS they all use Safari...

Re: Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser for user privacy

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This is why, despite it being monopolistic, I hope Apple can continue their requirement on using Safari's rendering engine on iOS. It's the sole remaining defense against a far worse monopoly. Neither the Mozilla nor Edge teams have the backbone to resist Google's web platform initiatives.

> Edge teams

What happened with Edge? I've been out of the loop with MS stuff for years, and last I heard you had to select a browser in the EU or something, but was this also made mandatory worldwide?

I'd imagine still being bundled with Windows means their usage is not insignificant...

Re: Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser for user privacy

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Too bad this is only available on a operating system that spies on its users.

(Sorry Apple fans, it does and while their marketing tries to hide it as much as possible, their privacy policies don't lie : https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/)

It's funny how quickly one can get downvoted for criticizing Apple's misleading marketing. Apple is a data hoarding company like every others, and no “not being worse than their competitors” isn't good enough.

Re: Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser for user privacy

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> (Conversely, if Safari refuses to implement some alleged 'feature', it becomes much less useful even if Chrome does implement it.) Ah yes... such as push notifications. Firebase would be so much more useful if Safari supported push notifications...

What do you mean by "useful"? I've been using Safari exclusively for years now and the lack of push notifications hasn't been a problem. It's actually good because it shields me from all kinds of shitty websites demanding notification permissions while having no good reason to send any.

From their profile:

> Co-Founder of NodeBB Inc., modern forum software for the modern web.

So I assume they want notifications for forum software.

Re: Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser for user privacy

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> (Conversely, if Safari refuses to implement some alleged 'feature', it becomes much less useful even if Chrome does implement it.) Ah yes... such as push notifications. Firebase would be so much more useful if Safari supported push notifications...

> Ah yes... such as push notifications. Firebase would be so much more useful if Safari supported push notifications...

All part of Apple's plans to enforce their one and only apps store for use on the iOS platform. Wouldn't want those pesky webapps being able to sidestep Apple's walled garden.

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