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Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions

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Post by capableweb »

bananaface wrote: post #55
justapassenger wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think that maintaining 3 completely separate stacks for 3 different services within the same company is making all of them more reliable, I don't think you ever worked on a big scale services.

Facebook took $85 billion in revenue last year and has thousands of developers on the payroll. They could absolutely maintain 3 separate services. Bear in mind WhatsApp used to maintain a userbase of 200 million with 50 total employees (not even just developers).

> They can absolutely maintain 3 different services

Lol, I'd believe you when they did purchased the service but the countless amount of times it went down since then obviously proves that they cannot even maintain the services when they are folded together on the same infrastructure.

It was a long time ago Facebook employed the best of the best. Seems like it's mostly average developers and infrastructure people there now just trying to hold up the house of cards they built.

Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions

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Post by aero-glide2 »

capableweb wrote: post #50
Spivak wrote: post #39

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Quick let's replace this centralized service that goes down sometimes with a group of centralized services that go down sometimes. Matrix being federated does absolutely nothing to solve this problem since there's no failover if a user's homeserver goes down. It just limits the potential blast radius but if matrix.org went down Matrix might as well be down for most people.

It does indeed solve a part of the problem. > There is no single point of control or failure in a Matrix conversation which spans multiple servers: the act of communication with someone elsewhere in Matrix shares ownership of the conversation equally with them. Even if your server goes offline, the conversation can continue uninterrupted elsewhere until it returns. https://matrix.org/ So right now, if you're trying t…

Lets be honest, most users right now use the main matrix server. Anyways there is atleast an option to use own servers.

Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions

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Post by vultour »

hans1729 wrote: post #51
capableweb wrote: post #31

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You want to explain the problem or just shit on something you don't understand? I thought we were all here to learn and discuss with good intentions, but seems you're not...

Can you not make this an "blablabla ad hominem blabla"? It is absolutely obvious why this is terrible behaviour: the url that's previewed simply doesn't match the one you'd type in the address bar. The encoding is messed up despite Umlaute being part of utf8, and if you're parsing HN with your own code, you're in trouble because you need to account for encoding, which simply shouldn't be a thing in 2021. "HN should b…

I don't care about your shitty punycode domain, I care about being able to see when a link is pretending to be "google.com" but is in fact some utf8 garbage.

Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions

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Post by mynameisvlad »

hans1729 wrote: post #51
capableweb wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You want to explain the problem or just shit on something you don't understand? I thought we were all here to learn and discuss with good intentions, but seems you're not...

Can you not make this an "blablabla ad hominem blabla"? It is absolutely obvious why this is terrible behaviour: the url that's previewed simply doesn't match the one you'd type in the address bar. The encoding is messed up despite Umlaute being part of utf8, and if you're parsing HN with your own code, you're in trouble because you need to account for encoding, which simply shouldn't be a thing in 2021. "HN should b…

> the url that's previewed simply doesn't match the one you'd type in the address bar.

I can type "xn--allestrungen-9ib.de" in my address bar and get to the same site. Not everyone uses a keyboard layout with umlauts to type allestörungen.

Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions

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Post by capableweb »

aero-glide2 wrote: post #72
capableweb wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does indeed solve a part of the problem. > There is no single point of control or failure in a Matrix conversation which spans multiple servers: the act of communication with someone elsewhere in Matrix shares ownership of the conversation equally with them. Even if your server goes offline, the conversation can continue uninterrupted elsewhere until it returns. https://matrix.org/ So right now, if you're trying t…

Lets be honest, most users right now use the main matrix server. Anyways there is atleast an option to use own servers.

I've been looking for data around how many people actually use the various matrix servers, but seems you have it already. Could you please link here so I can see it too?

Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions

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Post by jannes »

hans1729 wrote: post #51
capableweb wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You want to explain the problem or just shit on something you don't understand? I thought we were all here to learn and discuss with good intentions, but seems you're not...

Can you not make this an "blablabla ad hominem blabla"? It is absolutely obvious why this is terrible behaviour: the url that's previewed simply doesn't match the one you'd type in the address bar. The encoding is messed up despite Umlaute being part of utf8, and if you're parsing HN with your own code, you're in trouble because you need to account for encoding, which simply shouldn't be a thing in 2021. "HN should b…

I think you still don’t understand how Punycode works. The Unicode URL is translated by the browser before a request is made.
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