Oh wow, I don't think I've seen a real IDNA/Punycode domain in the wild before.
You probably have and didn't realize it.
WhatsApp Down in Some Regions
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Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, lets replace this centralized service that goes down sometimes with another centralized service that hasn't started going down sometimes yet! OR, get people on Matrix or similar so we can actually stop jumping ship when our centralized dear service stops acting in our best interest.
Quick let's replace this centralized service that goes down sometimes with a group of centralized services that go down sometimes. Matrix being federated does absolutely nothing to solve this problem since there's no failover if a user's homeserver goes down. It just limits the potential blast radius but if matrix.org went down Matrix might as well be down for most people.
> It just limits the potential blast radius
True, but it makes a difference between a single Homeserver not working any more and the entire global service. This likely won't ever happen.
> matrix.org went down Matrix might as well be down for most people.
not really (afaik less than a third of public(!) users use matrix.org)
Also consider ongoing developments of distributing accounts on multiple servers (which may also reside on your device) for P2P Matrix. This gives additional redundancy.
Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions
#63Don't panic. It is just the usual NSA backdoor upgrade.
Last week it was Azure.
Next week Apple services will be upgraded to the latest version.
Stay tuned!
Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions
#64And no. The same people won't flock to Signal after all of this, even though it is much more friendlier than Element.
On the other hand, at least Element is decentralised thanks to Matrix, but unfortunately suffers from a naming dilemma and is unfriendlier than the rest of the chat alternatives.
We need an alternative that is a mixture of both: Open source, Decentralised (Likely uses Matrix underneath) and is extremely user friendly and competes on security and features.
Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
You want to explain the problem or just shit on something you don't understand? I thought we were all here to learn and discuss with good intentions, but seems you're not...
Can you not make this an "blablabla ad hominem blabla"? It is absolutely obvious why this is terrible behaviour: the url that's previewed simply doesn't match the one you'd type in the address bar. The encoding is messed up despite Umlaute being part of utf8, and if you're parsing HN with your own code, you're in trouble because you need to account for encoding, which simply shouldn't be a thing in 2021. "HN should b…
That's a good point, so maybe it's a HN display issue.
Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
You want to explain the problem or just shit on something you don't understand? I thought we were all here to learn and discuss with good intentions, but seems you're not...
Can you not make this an "blablabla ad hominem blabla"? It is absolutely obvious why this is terrible behaviour: the url that's previewed simply doesn't match the one you'd type in the address bar. The encoding is messed up despite Umlaute being part of utf8, and if you're parsing HN with your own code, you're in trouble because you need to account for encoding, which simply shouldn't be a thing in 2021. "HN should b…
> the url that's previewed simply doesn't match the one you'd type in the address bar
Thanks, finally an actual argument against it.
Well, to be fair, you have three representations of it that happens. What you see in the addressbar is not actually what goes over the wire anyways, so the current implementation (in your words) is actually better as that is what being transmitted.
If you were rendering the actual unicode characters there is a risk for "IDN homograph attacks" which basically is what you are hinting at to prevent as well, but your solution would make things worse, not actually better.
Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions
#67Down in Dubai too
Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
You want to explain the problem or just shit on something you don't understand? I thought we were all here to learn and discuss with good intentions, but seems you're not...
Can you not make this an "blablabla ad hominem blabla"? It is absolutely obvious why this is terrible behaviour: the url that's previewed simply doesn't match the one you'd type in the address bar. The encoding is messed up despite Umlaute being part of utf8, and if you're parsing HN with your own code, you're in trouble because you need to account for encoding, which simply shouldn't be a thing in 2021. "HN should b…
> It is absolutely obvious why this is terrible behaviour:
It’s absolutely not. You were ranting about a character set issue while the problem is unrelated to character sets - punycode is the solution chosen for domains that use non-ascii characters since that would open the space for attacks using similar looking characters. HN is absolutely capable of displaying “allestörungen.de”, no character set issue here.
Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions
#69Decentralized services like Matrix - anyone? No, let's continue relying on a single centralized service for the whole world.
This isn't the panacea you think it is. For example, on iOS all server notifications for an app must be proxied via Apple and have to come from the app developer's push certificate. This means that even with Element (the matrix client) all of your notifications when your phone is locked are going from your server to the centralized dev push system run by the Element devs, then to another centralized system run by App…
This comes from from someone who enjoys the convenience of centralized services, but that honestly sounds to me like an argument for decentralization of mobile notifications too, not a refutation of the idea of decentralized messaging.
Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
You want to explain the problem or just shit on something you don't understand? I thought we were all here to learn and discuss with good intentions, but seems you're not...
Can you not make this an "blablabla ad hominem blabla"? It is absolutely obvious why this is terrible behaviour: the url that's previewed simply doesn't match the one you'd type in the address bar. The encoding is messed up despite Umlaute being part of utf8, and if you're parsing HN with your own code, you're in trouble because you need to account for encoding, which simply shouldn't be a thing in 2021. "HN should b…
Chill. Take a breather. I get it, I get where you're coming from, but you're going to get yourself banned or penalized if you keep this up. And that's really not fun.
Logically, you are correct. So if you're looking for someone to say you're right, here it is. But being right isn't automatically a win in a group setting. You have to phrase your ideas well.
HN is about performance art. And your performance leaves something to be desired here. It is what it is. It's also not the end of the world: simply start talking like you would to a colleague, instead of thinking of HN as an angry crowd out to get you.