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Calling for public input on our approach to world leaders

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Re: Calling for public input on our approach to world leaders

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Marketing tip: Always ask the public for input and consult with "experts" before doing what you intended to all along.

Also, if you phrase the question “should everyone follow the same rules?” in the right way, everyone is going to say “of course!”

Re: Calling for public input on our approach to world leaders

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Facebook, when I used to use it, felt like a reasonably structured glut of content. Twitter on the other hand feels like a poorly structured glut of opinions. I sometimes can't even differentiate between the original tweet, the reply, and I find it hard to know how many replies there are. It feels like trying to have a coherent conversation in the middle of an old fashioned stock exchange - virtually impossible - I t…

I think Twitter's problem is that there isn't enough feel good content. Facebook shows you the dark pattern engagement content, but they also have pictures of your family, kids selling girl scout cookies, 10 minute videos about how to turn ramen noodles into a combine harvester, etc. Twitter only has the dark pattern engagement content and it makes people sick after too long. Maybe they should buy a Flicker type plat…

I think they should bring out personalized, customizable and curatable blocking/block-lists for both accounts and topics, and perhaps content sentiment as well.

E.g. I want to follow Star Trek celebrity actors for their Star Trek/culture/movies/good content, but not for their incessant anti-Republican and Trump-bashing content. Yes, sometimes I'll miss stuff because AI/ML isn't perfect. But we don't want to "desensitize" people by forcing them to internalize beliefs not their own because they want "some" of the content posted by the people they follow.

Ads and "engagement" have a huge negative externality that comes with all these online tools, which is why these platforms never go in the direction of enabling and giving tools to the users to drive their own experience.

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Plenty of it by our own government and allies as well. Maybe we can be a little more principled than "good guy nations" and "bad guy nations" if the goal is truth?

Who's truth is more truthful, who's lies are more harmful/helpful?

"Seriously because the aliens are already here and I have proof!" -- Joking aside sometimes pushing a truth whether it's true or not has an impact on inflaming conspiracy theories... Youtube's covid, election banners for example IMO did more to incite deep state conspiracy then to reduce it... "One often meets their fate on the path they take to avoid it..." - Kung Fu panda

Re: Calling for public input on our approach to world leaders

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Plenty of it by our own government and allies as well. Maybe we can be a little more principled than "good guy nations" and "bad guy nations" if the goal is truth?

Who's truth is more truthful, who's lies are more harmful/helpful?

I was struck by the Chinese embassy that got banned a couple months ago. They said that their fight against radical islam is good for uighur women.. which is propaganda but also the exact same propaganda that western interventionists use all the time. One is ok, the other is not.

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I have quite literally no idea what the correct answer is, and I reckon anyone who claims to have an easy answer is lying, because the landscape is fundamentally different to anything we've seen before. Twitter is both a public forum and a private enterprise. The decisions it makes—not just in terms of moderation, but in terms of structure and incentive—substantially affect the spread of mis/disinformation. Is it the…

>The decisions it makes—not just in terms of moderation, but in terms of structure and incentive—substantially affect the spread of mis/disinformation.

If we can't trust individuals to digest information themselves, what are we doing?

I find the premise troubling. People can disagree and interpret events differently. Without that, there's very little to discuss.

Re: Calling for public input on our approach to world leaders

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Marketing tip: Always ask the public for input and consult with "experts" before doing what you intended to all along.

That's a point of view, and a pretty cynical one.

I would like to point out that regarding moderation, tech companies have been asking for guidelines and new laws for a decade now. Ageing lawmakers have been unable to provide them and we start to see shy initiatives from the EU regarding privacy laws but roughly most of the water in which tech companies operate are still no mans lands.

All that make me think that even tough you're right that the end result will not be democratic, I wouldn't throw them the stone and accuse them of acting in bad faith.

Re: Calling for public input on our approach to world leaders

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How do we give feedback?

I think Twitter should allow trusted/editorial account that shows prominently (even part of the tweet itself) on world leaders tweets.

This will be NYTs, Washington Post, etc... of the world.

The big plus here is we return the editorial part of these institutions. Imo, these used to be net positive on the society (see Watergate during Nixon)

Twitter will pick the list of editors (kind of what they currently do with the verified account) The bar to be an editor needs to be high and a trusted source of news.

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The only reasonable policy is to ban all world leaders from Twitter. As world leaders, they can speak elsewhere.

If someone is accused of being a world leader, and you have adequate identification, it's fairly easy to confirm or deny. In the case of a disputed election, maybe both candidates could be considered leaders until the dispute is resolved.

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Twitch did this with some sort of committee late last year and it blew up in their faces.

The deer incident?

I think the streamer you're referring to was just the focal point and scapegoat for a lot of the outrage over the very unequal and sometimes disturbing way Twitch moderates content.
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