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Out of prison after 30 years and people telling him to find forms on the web

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Re: Out of prison after 30 years and people telling him to find forms on the web

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My first thought is how the prison system failed him. Computer literacy is a fundamental job skill in the 21st century, one that's relatively easily and inexpensively taught. I'd expect computer literacy programs in any prison system built around rehabilitation.

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I saw a documentary on the personality-testing industry recently. They did an interview with an older chap fresh out of prison who was attending public job search classes, who said that when he went in. computers were running software from the 1980s and upon getting out he had to learn all about the "Google world" from scratch. It made me realize how fortunate I was: not only had I been exposed to the Google world from the outside, but had I been in prison all that time I could probably acclimate myself to it fairly easily upon leaving. I'd be outraged at the things the Google world does, but I'd have a clear head and shoulders advantage navigating it over someone who did not have my proclivity for all things computer.

The Google-world guy stood out. I felt for him. The film's epilogue shows him successfully getting a job as a building supervisor, but what are we doing for people like him? Employment services in my state offer free computer courses to people seeking jobs, but is that enough? And are the services in other states more spotty?

Re: Out of prison after 30 years and people telling him to find forms on the web

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30 years, so he would have went into prison in 1991. Wow, yeah, I can imagine getting out would have been a surreal experience.

To that point, I was thinking that.. in some countries, even if you are jailed for murder, after some time served, you may request and can be allowed to take some 'leave' (24/48h). Didn't he get the chance to take any such 'leaves' in the US? I honestly don't know US Justice system. Would there be the chance that his crime was so severe to not be allowed to get a leave at all for 30 years?

Re: Out of prison after 30 years and people telling him to find forms on the web

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In contrast, I am sure we all know some older people who were not in prisson for the past 30 years and still don't know how to write an email, what a zoom call is or when it's appropriate to double-click vs single click items on a computer.

I know people in their 50s who pretend that "they don't need this technology" or "I can just go to the bank if I need something". Sure, if you're in your 80s you might want to dodge most of the digital stuff. But in your 50s? You're gonna have to live with an increasing digitalization for multiple decades.

Rant: If you are not an IT person and need to work with Excel and PowerPoint for the next 20 years then ffs sit down and learn the in-depth tools and tricks in the tools over the span of two weekends.

Re: Out of prison after 30 years and people telling him to find forms on the web

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I saw a documentary on the personality-testing industry recently. They did an interview with an older chap fresh out of prison who was attending public job search classes, who said that when he went in. computers were running software from the 1980s and upon getting out he had to learn all about the "Google world" from scratch. It made me realize how fortunate I was: not only had I been exposed to the Google world fr…

Can please you share the imdb link/name of the documentary?

Re: Out of prison after 30 years and people telling him to find forms on the web

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30 years, so he would have went into prison in 1991. Wow, yeah, I can imagine getting out would have been a surreal experience.

To that point, I was thinking that.. in some countries, even if you are jailed for murder, after some time served, you may request and can be allowed to take some 'leave' (24/48h). Didn't he get the chance to take any such 'leaves' in the US? I honestly don't know US Justice system. Would there be the chance that his crime was so severe to not be allowed to get a leave at all for 30 years?

"Didn't he get the chance to take any such 'leaves' in the US?"

Probably not. I'm sure some programs exist like that, but it's complicated. In the US, most prisoners are in State, not Federal prisons. Every state, and even every prison, has different programs and rules. Also, in general, US culture views prison as pure punishment and not rehabilitation.

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