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Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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Post by mraza007 »

it33 wrote: post #111
mraza007 wrote: post #23

I’m just surprised few weeks ago i was looking at self hosted notion/trello like alternatives and now I just came across this. The project just looks really cool and I’m definitely going to download and try this. I just wanted to thank the developers from the bottom of my heart for creating this. Lastly I’m just curious is it possible to host this on a raspberry pi

Focalboard team here, thank you so much for the recognition! We're working super hard to build something that benefits our community. While there's not formal support for Raspberry Pi right now, we'd welcome a the feature idea, here's more on how to share feedback: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee... !

hey man, thanks for replying I loved the product and I would love to try it out on raspberry pi and I will add that as a feature request

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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Post by rhodozelia »

pagutierrezn wrote: post #150
unsungNovelty wrote: post #51

https://www.openproject.org/ I am always surprised when people don't mention Open Project. Cos isn't this fragmentation? Open Project... - Have been there for a long time. - Good motivated team AFAIK, - Have forum software. - Project board - And even version control! Everything self hosted or enterprise/cloud for serious stuff or people who want to support them. Or is there some other reason why openproject is not kn…

It looks like a forked non-free version of redmine but with less flexibility https://www.redmine.org/

I’ve been using redmine for project management for a decade. It is reliably excellent.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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Post by Griffinsauce »

mr-karan wrote: post #74
isitdopamine wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let’s just say that the fact that Electron needs to allocate hundreds of MB in memory to display a single “Hello world” text does not depose in Electron’s favor. Compare it with the few MBs needed by an equivalent native app with exactly same functionality. By any standard and by any metric, Electron is bloated. Some applications (like VSCode) can disguise it quite well and give a an acceptable user experience.

I've been Obsidian since a few weeks and it's the most fastest Electron app I've ever used. It's so snappy, it feels like a native app. So, yes I agree with parent comment, Notion is slow and sluggish but Electron is not the one to blame here. The web version is pretty slow as well.

Yes! Good point, web Notion is exactly as slow because the problems aren't the engine.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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Post by CRConrad »

s_dev wrote: post #115

Focal is the Irish for 'word'. Is that the etymology? 'Wordboard'?

It's also the English for ~"having, being in, or related to focus". So a meaning of "a board where important tasks are in focus" (or some such) seems at least as likely.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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Post by Griffinsauce »

isitdopamine wrote: post #67
Griffinsauce wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which makes rendering text extremely simple. It's a fun meme to blame Electron for everything but the problems with Notion are obviously with its state and data management. Booting/rendering performance is not the bottleneck here, and having used lightning fast Electron apps, I'm sure it never will be. Put differently: what measurements do you have of the performance issues of Notion and is Electron performance the r…

Let’s just say that the fact that Electron needs to allocate hundreds of MB in memory to display a single “Hello world” text does not depose in Electron’s favor. Compare it with the few MBs needed by an equivalent native app with exactly same functionality. By any standard and by any metric, Electron is bloated. Some applications (like VSCode) can disguise it quite well and give a an acceptable user experience.

Apart from the notion (heh) that we should compare a hello world app to determine real world performance, memory usage is really not that relevant to the discussion of speed, responsiveness etc.

There is a level of optimization where that is relevant and it's relevant in a bigger context of responsible resource usage but that's not what we're talking about here.

This was exactly my point as to the "memes" of Electron criticisms, your point is completely off topic but because someone mentioned "Notion" someone has to make your point nearly verbatim every time.

It does not add anything valuable to the discussion. Talking about caching strategies, offline/online functionality and layout thrashing is much, much more interesting here.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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Post by qorrect »

it33 wrote: post #122

Focalboard team here! Huge thanks to everyone who's sharing feedback and comments. It is super exciting to be trending on HackerNews! We've just put up a new Wiki page for people to share feature ideas, to join our Discourse forum, and to report bugs: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee... ! Thank y'all so much for being interested in our project and our space! We've been working super hard t…

Thanks I love it!

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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Post by Jnr »

blowski wrote: post #127
Jnr wrote: post #92

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I wish someone would make a modern project management system that was not working against the user all the time. I use Jira heavily in different projects and I am baffled at how slow it is. Such a popular product but the user experience due to frontend slowness is terrible.

Can you go into detail on "modern"? The problem with project management systems is that you have four important levers: * configurability (enforcing rules, custom workflows, triggers) * usability of the UI (speed, simplicity) * multi-user (including consistency between users) * scale (number of projects, users, tickets) You can't have all those at the same time. If you want it to be very configurable, you have to cho…

By 'modern' I was thinking about system with most of the features that Jira and others have, but with fast backend and fast javascript UI.

I don't think that speed is dependent on simplicity. One could make an advanced system with all the features that is still optimized for speed. There are other programs that check all the boxed, just not one for project management. I guess everyone is used to it. :)

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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Post by isitdopamine »

capableweb wrote: post #120
isitdopamine wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what is worth Electron could solve all the problem in the worlds. My point is that in order to display rich text, images and basic UI elements (what Notion and for instance Slack need) it requires an abysmal amount of memory with respect to a native implementation.

Your complaint is basically saying "Hey, I don't need this professional workstation just to run Notepad, what is going on in the world?!" while professional workstations are not for running just Notepad, they are for doing a lot more things than that. Here you are complaining that a "hello world" uses a lot of memory. Yes, that's true, but the use case for Electron is not to display just "hello world", it's to build…

No, my complaint is: I am very annoyed that this professional workstation runs Notepad ten times slower than my old 486.

What counts is the final user experience.

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