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All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by jbluepolarbear »

seibelj wrote: post #14
jbluepolarbear wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think people are just confused. Like, I didn’t know if who Beeple was and after seeing their work I can say it’s pretty offensive. So why is it worth anything? Is it because it’s a great work of art or did somebody with too much money take a gamble on Vaporware?

Why is this worth $85mil? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suprematist_Composition Honestly looks like a piece of shit to me, something my child could do. Value of art doesn't have to do with skill.

The value of art is dictated by only a few players (really rich people). Generally, expensive art is from an influential artist; specifically, the pieces that were atypical or experimental.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by SiempreViernes »

scsilver wrote: post #172
SiempreViernes wrote: post #145

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Sure, but the point of the practice is to produce quality, and then display the good bits of your production because mixing the few good ones into the deludge of average works isn't very helpful for the audience.

Like no artists have released behind the scenes work or b-sides.

Not as their main work no, the very concept of b-side implies there is an a-side that has been more carefully curated.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #125
imaginationra wrote: post #124

Mediocre artist using cg as a crutch with a gimmick of making an image everyday- yeah that's called "work" and you are supposed to work everyday- I don't see what the big deal is. Don't we all work everyday? Can I make a commit for 5000 days in a row then sell the text as an NFT? Probably not as I couldn't gain 2 million InstaZuck followers by creating commits with "trump sucks" and "whoa the future is crazy maaaan"…

>Can I make a commit for 5000 days in a row Can you, though?

It's so easy to shit on someone's work... I personally have set a goal for myself to do at least one commit to my project's repo per day, no matter how minute, even a change in todo.txt counts, and have repeatedly failed to meet the goal, for various reasons.

I have good streaks for weeks and months at a time, but 5000 days in a row is fucking impressive in its own right, regardless of the quality.

I thought most of the ,,crappy,, pieces given as example in the article to be at minimum thought-provoking and better than I can create, and pretty hilarious in several cases. At 5000 days in a row, they can,t all be winners, but they are from what I,ve seen.

I think most of the time millions are paid for art it,s shady as fuck, and I don,t know if this one is any different, but the art holds up imo. GP reeks of envy, which is also normal to experience and a valid feeling to have and express.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by nonameiguess »

codeulike wrote: post #112
techdragon wrote: post #98

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Wait... the only way this NFT stuff made any sense to me was if they were actually selling the copyrights via NFT... this was actually just a $69 million version of calling “dibs” like some kind of schoolchild? WTF!

Its somewhat like paying a lot of money for a rare vinyl record when the mp3 can be downloaded for free

It's paying a lot of money for an unenforceable extra-legal claim to ownership of a slip of paper with directions to a building that may have once contained a not-at-all rare copy of a song that was only ever recorded as an mp3 to begin with.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by the_af »

Grustaf wrote: post #176
the_af wrote: post #147

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I don't see him challenging the norms, so I'm gonna guess "no". It seems to be that his art is a dime a dozen sort of low quality crap. Crap is in itself unsurprising -- most of everything is, see Sturgeon's Law -- but what's surprising is the amount paid for such low quality, low effort crap. No sign of norms being challenged here.

Of course it’s low quality, but so is Pussy Riot or any equivalent leftist “art”. Surely the author of the article felt that drawing a “black dude” etc was un-woke?

I'm not sure what you mean by leftist art but, in general, I'm going to disagree with you.

I think the author of the article felt the art was generally crap and that the amount paid for it was surprising, a sentiment with which I agree.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

dash2 wrote: post #158
TheRealNGenius wrote: post #123

First I heard of Beeple was like a year ago, on Corridor Crew: https://youtu.be/_ul9jrCXhR4 So when I read about some NFT crypto art selling for 69 million, I was genuinely surprised that it was at least someone I had heard about before. It’s not exactly my cup of tea, but I respect Beeple’s dedication to his art. When I read this article, it felt less a critique of the merits of Beeple’s art, and more like a hit pie…

What? No, it's a critique of the art. It points out that the images are unfunny satire, or earnest political right-on-itude, or just trying out photoshop filters. Honestly, they could have just posted the images and that would have been condemnation enough. I mean, good for him for making money, but let's not pretend this is interesting art for anyone over fifteen.

I appreciate the art critic posting this, because I wouldn,t have seen the images otherwise. I find them both hilarious and thought-provoking, as I do the writer's snobbish dry analysis.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by the_af »

Grustaf wrote: post #174
UncleMeat wrote: post #160

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You can find largely equivalent content and messaging in political comics sections of a daily newspaper. What norms is this work challenging?

Apparently the author of this article felt that he challenged PC norms.

No, the author felt the art was crap. Anything else seems to be your own projection.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

codeulike wrote: post #182
tim333 wrote: post #177

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Well a different sort of sense. Price is not just about how nice something is - it's about things like supply and demand too. There is a limited supply of original Banksys and an infinite supply of copies.

But why is the original special? Just because people choose to believe that it is.

Sure, there's a real sense in which that's absolutely true. What I think the article was eyebrow-raising at wasn't primarily the digital nature of this transaction as much as the extremely high price paid. An original by Picasso is going to be worth more -- orders of magnitude more -- than an original by, say, Joan Erbe, a painter who was very well known around the Baltimore area and is "notable" enough to have her own Wikipedia page. Erbe's originals seem to generally go for around $500–800.

I know people are saying "but Beeple is known!" -- and I'm sure he is! I hadn't heard of him, but the chances are you haven't heard of Joan Erbe. What I'm suggesting is that Beeple is, in the wider world, closer to Erbe than he is to Picasso. If this had been a $2-3M transaction rather than a $69M transaction, it would still be in the news and raising eyebrows because of the NFT nature, but it would seem a lot less... bubble-ish.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

selfhoster11 wrote: post #120
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your observation: > I bet someone would buy a preserved notebook of someone semi-famous with 5000 pages of drawings, mostly regardless of contents ...is, I think, kind of what the article author is trying to get at. Beeple is arguably semi-famous not for his art, but for getting a staggering price for these 5000 images. It's as if someone bought a preserved notebook with 5000 pages drawings for tens of millions of do…

Beeple was semi-famous long before he auctioned these images.

In the non-digital art world, "semi-famous" doesn't get you Picasso prices.
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