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Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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i think AGPL only makes that requirement if you give out YOUR version to users. If you are just using for yourself or internal team, AGPL does not require you to publish those changes.

AGPL doesn't make any distinction between public vs private use. If software you write depends on or extends AGPL code, it must also be licensed as AGPL, period. You do only need to offer the source code to users of the software, but that is still a burden, especially when all you are doing is updating config files.

as far as i understand the license requirements don't get triggered by your own employees because they are bound to you by the employment contract, so it's like sharing with yourself

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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https://www.openproject.org/ I am always surprised when people don't mention Open Project. Cos isn't this fragmentation? Open Project... - Have been there for a long time. - Good motivated team AFAIK, - Have forum software. - Project board - And even version control! Everything self hosted or enterprise/cloud for serious stuff or people who want to support them. Or is there some other reason why openproject is not kn…

It’s quite heavy and slow.

I wish someone would make a modern project management system that was not working against the user all the time.

I use Jira heavily in different projects and I am baffled at how slow it is. Such a popular product but the user experience due to frontend slowness is terrible.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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> Download Focalboard from the Microsoft App Store. I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.

I became a Windows user recently and I install everything I can from the Microsoft Store, so I don't have to individually and manually get updates for all the apps I installed.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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I tried a bunch of selfhosted alternatives to Trello a few months back and never registered OpenProject as an option. I mainly used this list https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#tas... I did focus on "Task management/To-do lists", while OpenProject is listed under the "Project Management" section. This is likely why I missed it as I've been looking for something clean and simple (not JIRA) that i…

> I just want cards on a board I can move around (with a bit of metadata) If I may, what did you finally settle on?

Not OP but I settled on Deck which is a NextCloud plugin, good enough for me and my wife.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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Nice. I was using Wekan for awhile until I ignored Heroku telling me that they were getting rid of the free MongoDB service, then I lost all of my data. Maybe I'll have to try this instead.

Restyaboard is having import option for other software including Wekan. So, you may easily migrate from Wekan to Restyaboard to avoid that.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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Which makes rendering text extremely simple. It's a fun meme to blame Electron for everything but the problems with Notion are obviously with its state and data management. Booting/rendering performance is not the bottleneck here, and having used lightning fast Electron apps, I'm sure it never will be. Put differently: what measurements do you have of the performance issues of Notion and is Electron performance the r…

Let’s just say that the fact that Electron needs to allocate hundreds of MB in memory to display a single “Hello world” text does not depose in Electron’s favor. Compare it with the few MBs needed by an equivalent native app with exactly same functionality. By any standard and by any metric, Electron is bloated. Some applications (like VSCode) can disguise it quite well and give a an acceptable user experience.

Maybe that's because Electron isn't made to just display a single line of text?

Text Rendering, CSS Layouts, Accessibility, being good at cross-platform, Canvas/WebGL and a myriad of other APIs make Electron pretty powerful. I don't know exactly, but I think QT would be it's main competitor when it comes to those features. But QT isn't always that easy to develop with.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

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Note: this, although self-hosted, appears to transmit your usage data without consent (just like the selfhosted Mattermost server from the same people): https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/server/se... Anyone want to offer me odds on the likelihood of a patch removing this spyware getting accepted by the maintainer in this “open source” project?

Apparently there's a config option to turn off telemetry. https://www.focalboard.com/guide/admin/ While I understand the feeling, it's also truth that these kinds of projects appear to receive a lot more criticism than if they went completely closed source which feels a bit unfair.

> Apparently there's a config option to turn off telemetry.

The option should be to turn it on; automatically "opting users in" (a euphemism; really, it's assuming consent which does not exist) to spyware is at best unethical and in some jurisdictions actually illegal.

Co-opting a user's own hardware and connection to (silently!) spy on them is a total dickhead move whether your product is free software or proprietary.

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