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Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#71
post #9

It's easy to miss that this is by the same people making Mattermost, the open-source self-hosted slack alternative you might have heard of. https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard

Yeah this seems like a pretty serious initiative, kind of surprised they're not offering their own hosting though.

It's pretty obvious they are planning that. I read through the license and it's mostly AGPL and MIT, but its top level is a MATTERMOST-license.

Anyways, good on them for sharing the code.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#72
post #52

I love Notion but the speed, or rather lack of, is killing me daily. Last Friday I was taking some notes, and suddenly the page refreshed and everything was gone. Went on twitter to see, I wasn't alone .. i feel like hosting my own notion clone is the way to go forward to use Notion...

Same here. And I still did not find the perfect note taking app. I have so few requirements. WYSIWYG editing, easy image insertion, export function with open standard format, mobile app, some security.

I recently moved (almost) all of my note taking into Obsidian [0]. They just released a closed beta mobile app (they are very active in development and great community), but they are local first app.

[0] https://obsidian.md

edit: To clarify, using they mobile app will require paid subscription in all scenarios, I think (not sure, as I don't need that).

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#73
post #64

https://www.openproject.org/ I am always surprised when people don't mention Open Project. Cos isn't this fragmentation? Open Project... - Have been there for a long time. - Good motivated team AFAIK, - Have forum software. - Project board - And even version control! Everything self hosted or enterprise/cloud for serious stuff or people who want to support them. Or is there some other reason why openproject is not kn…

I tried a bunch of selfhosted alternatives to Trello a few months back and never registered OpenProject as an option. I mainly used this list https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#tas... I did focus on "Task management/To-do lists", while OpenProject is listed under the "Project Management" section. This is likely why I missed it as I've been looking for something clean and simple (not JIRA) that i…

> I just want cards on a board I can move around (with a bit of metadata)

Yeah you won't find that in OpenProject. I mean, they do have kanban boards, but they're in an enterprise version that I'm assuming you're not interested at.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which makes rendering text extremely simple. It's a fun meme to blame Electron for everything but the problems with Notion are obviously with its state and data management. Booting/rendering performance is not the bottleneck here, and having used lightning fast Electron apps, I'm sure it never will be. Put differently: what measurements do you have of the performance issues of Notion and is Electron performance the r…

Let’s just say that the fact that Electron needs to allocate hundreds of MB in memory to display a single “Hello world” text does not depose in Electron’s favor. Compare it with the few MBs needed by an equivalent native app with exactly same functionality. By any standard and by any metric, Electron is bloated. Some applications (like VSCode) can disguise it quite well and give a an acceptable user experience.

I've been Obsidian since a few weeks and it's the most fastest Electron app I've ever used. It's so snappy, it feels like a native app. So, yes I agree with parent comment, Notion is slow and sluggish but Electron is not the one to blame here. The web version is pretty slow as well.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#75
post #34
post #32

The licensing notions in this project are nonsense.

I need to hire a lawyer just to figure out if I can use this thing or not. The opening of https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/LICENSE.t... mentions 4 separate licenses. And is it just me or does this part mean absolutely nothing: > We promise that we will not enforce the copyleft provisions in AGPL v3.0 against you if your application (a) does not link to Focalboard directly, but exclusively uses Focal…

doesn't (a) mean the admintools should not be under the AGPL? i wonder why they couldn't just specify an appropriate license instead.

and does (b) mean that when i host focalboard myself, i would be allowed to hide the fact from my users?

what other benefit is there from not enforcing the AGPL against me?

if the AGPL is in applied to the unmodified version, then my users would get the original source and whether they got it from me or from upstream. so i don't see the benefit of nonenforcement

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#76
post #55
post #4

It would’ve been more convenient to me if this project provided standalone downloads for macOS and Windows. The current downloads for the Desktop version are only available through the respective app stores on these two platforms.

Same here, I don't want to use any Microsoft account on windows 10, I was already burned by it once ._.

You don‘t need a Microsoft account to download from the Microsoft Store.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#77
post #41

> Download Focalboard from the Microsoft App Store. I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.

Its not very popular yet, but its 100% the future. I use it whenever an app is available on the store - easy, consistent auto updates is much better than each app nagging you to update independently. Better for devs as well because it gives you much more confidence that new versions will be adopted quickly.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#78

https://www.openproject.org/ I am always surprised when people don't mention Open Project. Cos isn't this fragmentation? Open Project... - Have been there for a long time. - Good motivated team AFAIK, - Have forum software. - Project board - And even version control! Everything self hosted or enterprise/cloud for serious stuff or people who want to support them. Or is there some other reason why openproject is not kn…

Last time I used it, it was generally a good experience, albeit slow sometimes when moving/editing stuff around but amount of features it offers even on free plan in my opinion compensates that. Also API is rather easy to use. I'm also surprised it doesn't get so much exposure, alongside https://www.phacility.com/phabricator/

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nonsense, package managers enable trivial and fine grained update policies

You might want to add a qualifier to 'package managers', like 'good package managers'... which the Windows Store is not. It barely fits the bill as a package manager.

Scoop is the way to go

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#80
post #59

https://www.openproject.org/ I am always surprised when people don't mention Open Project. Cos isn't this fragmentation? Open Project... - Have been there for a long time. - Good motivated team AFAIK, - Have forum software. - Project board - And even version control! Everything self hosted or enterprise/cloud for serious stuff or people who want to support them. Or is there some other reason why openproject is not kn…

It’s quite heavy and slow.

Seconded. For reference, have multiple websites with 10K to 100K visitors monthly on a DO droplet, with a wiki and a dynamic blog working just fine.

Trying this project out made it quite slow and not practical, would need a beefier machine / setup. I decided not to invest time in testing it further, but it may work for others.

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