> Download Focalboard from the Microsoft App Store.
I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.
Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
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Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#42It would’ve been more convenient to me if this project provided standalone downloads for macOS and Windows. The current downloads for the Desktop version are only available through the respective app stores on these two platforms.
Downloading from app store is about as easy as it gets.
No, it's not.
Requires a sign-up and comes with other cruft unrelated to the actual download.
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#43I love Notion but the speed, or rather lack of, is killing me daily. Last Friday I was taking some notes, and suddenly the page refreshed and everything was gone. Went on twitter to see, I wasn't alone .. i feel like hosting my own notion clone is the way to go forward to use Notion...
I've actually just started using Notion and the UI is nice, as is the feature set, but yeah, I'm getting a little annoyed by the constant page loads.
I mean this kind of thing continues to fuel my beliefs that software is going backwards here because frankly, how hard can it be to render some text?
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#44It would’ve been more convenient to me if this project provided standalone downloads for macOS and Windows. The current downloads for the Desktop version are only available through the respective app stores on these two platforms.
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#45> Download Focalboard from the Microsoft App Store. I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.
Nonsense, package managers enable trivial and fine grained update policies
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a major bummer when devs don't even let you download the app from their own website, instead suggesting that you dox yourself to Apple to use their software. :( Mattermost (the company behind this) also builds spyware into Mattermost (which is not well documented) and I would be unsurprised to find the same nonsense going on with this. Is there a term for companies that are "open source in license only" that ign…
Did you check the repo? You can download and build your own app easily, they have instructions for all 3 platforms: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard#building-and-runnin...
I am aware that one can build the app from source; my comments were orthogonal to that.
It is customary for open source projects that involve complicated or proprietary build processes to provide binaries which one can simply download and run. App Store releases are decidedly not this: they include DRM, and have as a requirement the provision of personal information to (and agreement to an onerous legal contract with) a third party: the app store vendor. You can't get free apps from the mac App Store without giving Apple your phone number and email address.
In the case of interpreted software (such as this) those interpreted (but nonetheless runnable) files should be modifiable. You shouldn't have to set up a toolchain (which on macOS is proprietary and requires its own EULA) to try out this software if you don’t have or want an AppleID.
If you do jump through the App Store hoops, you can't edit the app and then run it.
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#47> Download Focalboard from the Microsoft App Store. I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.
Nonsense, package managers enable trivial and fine grained update policies
They didn't say anything about the quality of the service, they mentioned the low popularity.
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#48> Download Focalboard from the Microsoft App Store. I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.
Nonsense, package managers enable trivial and fine grained update policies
You might want to add a qualifier to 'package managers', like 'good package managers'... which the Windows Store is not. It barely fits the bill as a package manager.
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#49I love Notion but the speed, or rather lack of, is killing me daily. Last Friday I was taking some notes, and suddenly the page refreshed and everything was gone. Went on twitter to see, I wasn't alone .. i feel like hosting my own notion clone is the way to go forward to use Notion...
I've actually just started using Notion and the UI is nice, as is the feature set, but yeah, I'm getting a little annoyed by the constant page loads. I mean this kind of thing continues to fuel my beliefs that software is going backwards here because frankly, how hard can it be to render some text?
> how hard can it be to render some text?
It really depends. If the only thing you care about rendering is US ASCII with a monospace bitmapped font, that's not too hard.
However, a general purpose text renderer will have to handle things like directionality (left to right versus right to left text orientation), wide/half text rendering (for CJK characters), combining characters (for some European, South East Asian languages, and zalgo), line break rules (handling characters like soft hyphens and non breaking spaces), and so on.
On the font rendering side of things, there's kerning (some letters are closer to one another), font ligatures (certain fonts handle things like fi ffi fl ffl differently, not to mention things like hasklig), antialiasing, sub pixel rendering, and the fact that fonts are actually programs running on a stack based virtual machine [0].
That's also ignoring more advanced text rendering features like ruby characters and vertical text rendering. Or that apparently Turkish has different small caps than English ones [1].
In practice, it's probably not the text rendering that's the issue, it's probably just features that are implemented inefficiently.
[0] https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TrueType-Reference-Manual/...
[1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/opentype/spec/tt...
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#50> Download Focalboard from the Microsoft App Store. I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.
I use it, and I've bought apps worth ~$200 on it.