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Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by tablespoon » Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 5:18 AM UTC

cyberge99 wrote: post #7

Long after we’re all dead this work will be reviewed by historians for it’s significance. Mocked by present day critics, reviled by many. Nonetheless a curated work that defined the times that we lived through, in a series of pictures. He’s an Artist. It’s his chosen vector of expression. Leave him be. His work will be discussed long after we’ve become worm farmers.

> His work will be discussed long after we’ve become worm farmers.

Perhaps, but likely as a footnote to the footnote that was NFT mania, not as an artist in his own right.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by jbluepolarbear » Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 5:23 AM UTC

seibelj wrote: post #8

A baseball card is ink on cardboard. Its intrinsic value is a few pennies at most. The value is what it represents, the story behind it (and the stories we tell each other), the rarity, the brand, and so on. A physical collectible is a conversation piece and only has meaning because some people agree it does. An NFT is no different. The more people talk about the Beeple work, analyze it, critique it, teach it in scho…

I think people are just confused. Like, I didn’t know if who Beeple was and after seeing their work I can say it’s pretty offensive. So why is it worth anything? Is it because it’s a great work of art or did somebody with too much money take a gamble on Vaporware?

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by ReadEvalPost » Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 5:28 AM UTC

Pure strain ressentiment.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by seibelj » Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 5:30 AM UTC

jbluepolarbear wrote: post #12

seibelj wrote: post #8

A baseball card is ink on cardboard. Its intrinsic value is a few pennies at most. The value is what it represents, the story behind it (and the stories we tell each other), the rarity, the brand, and so on. A physical collectible is a conversation piece and only has meaning because some people agree it does. An NFT is no different. The more people talk about the Beeple work, analyze it, critique it, teach it in scho…

I think people are just confused. Like, I didn’t know if who Beeple was and after seeing their work I can say it’s pretty offensive. So why is it worth anything? Is it because it’s a great work of art or did somebody with too much money take a gamble on Vaporware?

Why is this worth $85mil? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suprematist_Composition

Honestly looks like a piece of shit to me, something my child could do. Value of art doesn't have to do with skill.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by postalrat » Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 5:34 AM UTC

seibelj wrote: post #14

jbluepolarbear wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think people are just confused. Like, I didn’t know if who Beeple was and after seeing their work I can say it’s pretty offensive. So why is it worth anything? Is it because it’s a great work of art or did somebody with too much money take a gamble on Vaporware?

Why is this worth $85mil? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suprematist_Composition Honestly looks like a piece of shit to me, something my child could do. Value of art doesn't have to do with skill.

Is there a painting you think is worth 85 million?

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by seibelj » Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 5:37 AM UTC

postalrat wrote: post #15

seibelj wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this worth $85mil? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suprematist_Composition Honestly looks like a piece of shit to me, something my child could do. Value of art doesn't have to do with skill.

Is there a painting you think is worth 85 million?

Is there a reason why the painting I linked is $85mil, and the Beeple NFT isn't? My argument is that the value of a collectible (NFT, painting, baseball card) is actually because of what it represents, rather than the object itself.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by tablespoon » Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 5:38 AM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #9

I'm not sure I get this point of view. We know that famous artists did random rude and badly-satirical drawings for fun. Their dick drawings were contained in some old notebooks and trashed. But I bet someone would buy a preserved notebook of someone semi-famous with 5000 pages of drawings, mostly regardless of contents. This is pretty much the equivalent of that - daily fun which went to the internet bin rather than…

> I'm not sure I get this point of view.

I think that Beeple is basically just a rando-tier DeviantArt/Tumblr artist, and much of his art is cringe to boot. Since someone purportedly paid the equivalent of $69 million in ETH for it, it's noteworthy that there's no there there.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by nl » Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 5:42 AM UTC

seibelj wrote: post #16

postalrat wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a painting you think is worth 85 million?

Is there a reason why the painting I linked is $85mil, and the Beeple NFT isn't? My argument is that the value of a collectible (NFT, painting, baseball card) is actually because of what it represents, rather than the object itself.

> My argument is that the value of a collectible (NFT, painting, baseball card) is actually because of what it represents, rather than the object itself.

Well... yeah?

Has anyone ever argued that the Mona Lisa is worth whatever its raw materials are worth?

The real question is if the Beeple work is interesting as art or is if just a speculative bubble. https://www.ft.com/content/1563d643-332f-3887-8c6e-caf7435f3...

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by tablespoon » Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 5:44 AM UTC

seibelj wrote: post #16

postalrat wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a painting you think is worth 85 million?

Is there a reason why the painting I linked is $85mil, and the Beeple NFT isn't? My argument is that the value of a collectible (NFT, painting, baseball card) is actually because of what it represents, rather than the object itself.

> Is there a reason why the painting I linked is $85mil, and the Beeple NFT isn't? My argument is that the value of a collectible (NFT, painting, baseball card) is actually because of what it represents, rather than the object itself.

Probably because that artist and his work were actually influential: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazimir_Malevich

When looked at as an artist, Beeple appears to be the digital art equivalent of some forgettable late-Rococo painter.

Re: All 5000 Images in Beeple’s $69M Magnum Opus:What I Found Isn’t So Pretty

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Post by uniqueid » Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 5:50 AM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #9

I'm not sure I get this point of view. We know that famous artists did random rude and badly-satirical drawings for fun. Their dick drawings were contained in some old notebooks and trashed. But I bet someone would buy a preserved notebook of someone semi-famous with 5000 pages of drawings, mostly regardless of contents. This is pretty much the equivalent of that - daily fun which went to the internet bin rather than…

  What is the article author trying to point out there?

That the artist is a bit dim, I should think.