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The human brain grew as a result of the extinction of large animals: new paper

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Re: The human brain grew as a result of the extinction of large animals: new paper

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This line of thinking falls into a common issue I have with evo-psych work. The paper proposes a mechanism that could select for intelligence, but doesn't provide evidence that the mechanism caused humans to evolve to be intelligent. It's the equivalent of the "Is-Ought" fallacy for empirical sciences.

It is called ad hoc explanation.

I don't believe that counts as science.

Re: The human brain grew as a result of the extinction of large animals: new paper

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As these “just so” stories explain how something grew or developed over multiple generations, we should keep in mind something that isn’t stated: for this to happen, tons of humans were apparently dying of hunger, unable to get enough to eat, before they passed on their genes. Either that or the humans with larger brains were able to survive better and have more children for other reasons. But then the reductionist theory is wrong. Hmm which is more likely?

Re: The human brain grew as a result of the extinction of large animals: new paper

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"As they adapted to hunting... brain volume [grew] from 650cc to 1,500cc." "As humans moved into permanent settlements and became farmers, their brain size decreased to its current volume of 1300-1400cc." Its interesting that we today have smaller brains than our prehistoric ancestors. I wonder if we can look through our genetic code and find some remnants of this past, and re-engineer the relevant genes into future…

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Re: The human brain grew as a result of the extinction of large animals: new paper

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I sometimes joke that our brains were needed during glacial periods to survive, and now we just invent chores and make fuss over everything just to keep it busy.

Where's the joke though?

As people needed to understand jokes and attract mates, their brains grew to make that happen. - Lamarck

Re: The human brain grew as a result of the extinction of large animals: new paper

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post #24

This line of thinking falls into a common issue I have with evo-psych work. The paper proposes a mechanism that could select for intelligence, but doesn't provide evidence that the mechanism caused humans to evolve to be intelligent. It's the equivalent of the "Is-Ought" fallacy for empirical sciences.

Would a mechanism that selects for more intelligence automatically create evolutionary pressure into that direction?

If that proposed mechanism is actually operating in practice, and if there are no other mechanisms that counteract it, then yes, it would.

Re: The human brain grew as a result of the extinction of large animals: new paper

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This line of thinking falls into a common issue I have with evo-psych work. The paper proposes a mechanism that could select for intelligence, but doesn't provide evidence that the mechanism caused humans to evolve to be intelligent. It's the equivalent of the "Is-Ought" fallacy for empirical sciences.

I often find it "justifying human exceptionalism" presented as science. The unstated assumption is that humans are somehow better than chimpanzees (here, it is almost literally stated), and therefore that we must reverse engineer and fill in the gaps to justify this. It strikes me that I have no reason to believe the assumption, nor any way of reverse engineering the random process of natural selection.

In my opinion, other sciences are not immune to this.

Re: The human brain grew as a result of the extinction of large animals: new paper

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"As they adapted to hunting... brain volume [grew] from 650cc to 1,500cc." "As humans moved into permanent settlements and became farmers, their brain size decreased to its current volume of 1300-1400cc." Its interesting that we today have smaller brains than our prehistoric ancestors. I wonder if we can look through our genetic code and find some remnants of this past, and re-engineer the relevant genes into future…

Is there a particular reason that you cite a 20-year old, paywalled study that claims black people are genetically stupider than other races here?

Re: The human brain grew as a result of the extinction of large animals: new paper

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"As they adapted to hunting... brain volume [grew] from 650cc to 1,500cc." "As humans moved into permanent settlements and became farmers, their brain size decreased to its current volume of 1300-1400cc." Its interesting that we today have smaller brains than our prehistoric ancestors. I wonder if we can look through our genetic code and find some remnants of this past, and re-engineer the relevant genes into future…

Do we really currently use our brains as efficiently as possible? The decrease in size could be the outcome of one of the bottlenecks, like the one 200k years ago.

The problem could be with distribution.

In a hunter-gatherer society, all members require this intelligence described in the article.

In a hierarchical early agricultural society, only the ruling classes and to an extent middle classes do.

Thus you end up with a distribution of intelligence (and brain size) aligned along caste, with a wide range. Who you sample influences your measurements.

Re: The human brain grew as a result of the extinction of large animals: new paper

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"As they adapted to hunting... brain volume [grew] from 650cc to 1,500cc." "As humans moved into permanent settlements and became farmers, their brain size decreased to its current volume of 1300-1400cc." Its interesting that we today have smaller brains than our prehistoric ancestors. I wonder if we can look through our genetic code and find some remnants of this past, and re-engineer the relevant genes into future…

Might want to check your facts. Especially since you're citing this person: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Philippe_Rushton
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