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Coffee shop programmer

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Re: Coffee shop programmer

#21

I should try that, but finding good coffee shop in my area is hard.

Business opportunity?

Possibly but you should really try to concentrate on business opportunities that are a close match to your skill-set and temperament which I guess the coffee industry isn't for most of the visitors here.

Re: Coffee shop programmer

#22

I should try that, but finding good coffee shop in my area is hard.

Business opportunity?

The problem with coffee shops in my area is not that they are bad, but the people that go there are annoying. Usually people between 12 and 20 who spend more time in front of mirrors than its healthy, and talk mainly about that. You cant help it if your town's retarder. I sometimes enjoy going to coffee shops with friends, but can't imagine working there, im not a regular anywhere, so maybe i just haven't found the wright place, so if i find a good comfortable place, i might consider working there.

Re: Coffee shop programmer

#23
I like to powernap between problems (and mull them over while I rest my eyes).

Coffeshops are not good for this, but I have found libraries often are. Quiet environments, often excellent views (most libraries seem to be in the best parts of town) and some even have areas you can lie down (meant more for people to read than nap, but many people do it) or big grassy areas surrounding them.

Re: Coffee shop programmer

#24

Although I'd love to agree, I think there are two major reasons why I cannot program in a coffee shop. 1. No ergonomic keyboard (or my 22 in. monitor) to help prevent carpel tunnel. 2. No Aeron Chair.

1. No ergonomic keyboard (or my 22 in. monitor) to help prevent carpel tunnel.

I sort of have this problem. I use a model M keyboard at home, and my laptop keyboard just doesn't compare. So I find it hard to type.

But it really doesn't matter, since there isn't all that much typing involved when programming; only when writing replies to Hacker News comments ;)

Re: Coffee shop programmer

#25
post #13

A word of warning from a Seattle guy who does this all the time: if you start going to coffeehouses to work, please take the environment of the place into account. Nothing is more grating than when a previously social, comfortable place is turned into a caffeinated study hall by geeks with laptops. Likewise, it's awful when a quiet, subdued place is over-run with noisy group meetings. Usually, the owner of an establi…

Interesting; I was just in Seattle a few weeks ago, and noticed the different kinds of coffee shops. Some were clearly designed for buying a coffee and working (Online Coffee), whereas others were designed for drinking coffee. In the part of Chicago where I live, everything is a chain coffee shop, so none of them are really conducive for getting work done. They all cater to the "I need my coffee before my 8am meeting" crowd. It's kind of sad, really.

Re: Coffee shop programmer

#26

I should try that, but finding good coffee shop in my area is hard.

Business opportunity?

From "My Coffee House Nightmare" (http://www.slate.com/id/2132576/)

"The failure of a small cafe is not a question of competence. It is a sad given. The logistics of a food establishment that seats between 20 and 25 people (which roughly corresponds to the definition of "cozy") are such that the place will stay afloat—barely—as long as its owners spend all of their time on the job."

Re: Coffee shop programmer

#27
post #16

The first startup where I worked, it was just me and the founder, and we were always working from a Starbucks with two laptops as a way to save money on the office and also to allow for change of scenery (this was Manhattan, and there were something like 60 Starbucks here at the time) It worked great for 3 months. After Thanksgiving all the stores started to play the same Christmas Tunes CD on repeat - nothing kills…

the most disturbing thing on starbuck's playlist last year was the Carol King live album. I wanted to kill myself when they started playing it every hour. The alternatives, if you still have Tmobile wireless, are - Fedex Kinko's, harsh lighting coupled with excessive air conditioning, and who knows what kind of fumes you're inhaling? - Borders bookstores are more like it, if you need ot look up K&R, gang of 4, whatev…

> - Borders bookstores are more like it, if you need ot look up K&R, gang of 4, whatever, there it is. BUt the wireless routers have limited range.

That's when you chip in with your friends/coworkers, get one wireless account (assuming you all go to the same store on a reasonably fixed schedule), and bring in some dd-wrt/openwrt/tomato routers (with all but one of them in bridge-mode), and have the master router set up with WPA2 on your side and either OpenVPN at the router level, or just use whatever external SSH boxes you've got as SOCKS proxies. (If you care, remember that Firefox doesn't proxy DNS requests over SOCKS unless you set the about:config item network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to true).

Also don't forget to bring power strips, since you're bringing in more hardware.

Re: Coffee shop programmer

#28

Although I'd love to agree, I think there are two major reasons why I cannot program in a coffee shop. 1. No ergonomic keyboard (or my 22 in. monitor) to help prevent carpel tunnel. 2. No Aeron Chair.

i just spent half the day in a coffee shop. the table was too low, so i over-stressed my back leaning in to see the screen properly. (i'm a bit near-sighted.)

Perhaps you should invest in a pair of glasses.

Re: Coffee shop programmer

#29
Why not just buy a damn coffee pot and stay at home, providing you have enough space for an office. You can play whatever music you want, without ear-damaging headphones, and you don't have an endless stream of distractions, providing you don't have children.

When I'm coding on my laptop I'm probably at 50% efficiency compared to my desktop. I've got a giant Kinesis keyboard (great tool, but expensive), a big mouse pad, a 24" monitor, a subwoofer, a second pc, a stack of books, etc. One cannot replicate such an environment in a coffe shop.

A coffee shop is probably great for relaxing, brainstorming, having an occasional change of scenery, and writing children's novels, but I can't imagine it's an efficient way to produce complex software. Most importantly, I would never be able to concentrate, feeling like I am imposing by sitting in the shop for hours. Obviously, others enjoy sitting in coffee shops, but how many of you are doing complex work while there? Or do you save the light work for coffee shop visits?

Re: Coffee shop programmer

#30

The first startup where I worked, it was just me and the founder, and we were always working from a Starbucks with two laptops as a way to save money on the office and also to allow for change of scenery (this was Manhattan, and there were something like 60 Starbucks here at the time) It worked great for 3 months. After Thanksgiving all the stores started to play the same Christmas Tunes CD on repeat - nothing kills…

I'm assuming it wasn't even classic Jingle Bells. How long did you listen to Jingle Bell Rock before you threw your Coffee at the barista and jumped out the window?
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