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Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by lofi_lory »

eric4smith wrote: post #145

On a side note... (side note!! sheesh!) "Polyamory ...is the practice of, or desire for, intimate relationships with more than one partner, with the informed consent of all partners involved" Sounds good, and has been the case for thousands of years. But modern dating apps and social media are pushing us back to this practice in quite a big (and informal) way. Its innate female nature for women to choose the best men…

Quite the incel take on "biology" and the female attention market... I mean for not being on one side and all. Comments like this scare me.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by simias »

bambax wrote: post #97

There are no solutions for suspensions from app stores. The solution is to not use app stores -- build better webapps, use the open web. We could be living in a world where no open web ever existed, where everything would be filtered through app stores and closed environments like Facebook (AOL). We need to preserve the open web, it is our most precious ressource.

Due to my phone running low on storage I've had to uninstall some apps lately and switch to the mobile web version. In the process, I realized that many of these webapps effectively worked almost identically to their app counterparts with only very minor differences that didn't impact my usage at all.

Actually for some of them the main difference is that the webapp will push very hard for you to install the app with various popups while the app won't. You're basically being harassed into installing the app.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by jackric »

jeegsy wrote: post #128
lionkor wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont agree, personally. I believe that putting everything online is not sustainable. It might be very difficult to believe for people who earn so much that they can afford 24/7 stable and fast internet anywhere they go, but there are places where even good old broadband dsl is unstable, in the west. The reasoning of "appstore bad -> lets not use any appstores" is flawed. There are "appstores" like the ones on FOSS…

As far as I can tell, a native dating app or a webapp for that matter require an active web connection for full functionality.

Should be possible to queue up profiles when online, review them offline, and sync back responses to the service when online again.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by greenwich26 »

eric4smith wrote: post #145

On a side note... (side note!! sheesh!) "Polyamory ...is the practice of, or desire for, intimate relationships with more than one partner, with the informed consent of all partners involved" Sounds good, and has been the case for thousands of years. But modern dating apps and social media are pushing us back to this practice in quite a big (and informal) way. Its innate female nature for women to choose the best men…

Historically, monogamous societies are far more prosperous than harem-based societies. The reason is obvious: monogamy entices the entire male population to invest in their family and nation, have a good career, and build property and wealth. Without monogamy, a large segment of males have no such motivations, and they are uninvolved in society, detached from the future, and more likely to pursue self-pleasing leisure or even crime.

There is also the disease angle. STDs, including common ones like herpes, are a major factor in cognitive decline, early-onset Alzheimers, etc.

The West is about to get a major lesson in this.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by greenwich26 »

lofi_lory wrote: post #151
eric4smith wrote: post #145

On a side note... (side note!! sheesh!) "Polyamory ...is the practice of, or desire for, intimate relationships with more than one partner, with the informed consent of all partners involved" Sounds good, and has been the case for thousands of years. But modern dating apps and social media are pushing us back to this practice in quite a big (and informal) way. Its innate female nature for women to choose the best men…

Quite the incel take on "biology" and the female attention market... I mean for not being on one side and all. Comments like this scare me.

Not an argument, not interesting. Next time you get scared on the internet, you can write about it on your blog.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by HenryBemis »

simias wrote: post #152
bambax wrote: post #97

There are no solutions for suspensions from app stores. The solution is to not use app stores -- build better webapps, use the open web. We could be living in a world where no open web ever existed, where everything would be filtered through app stores and closed environments like Facebook (AOL). We need to preserve the open web, it is our most precious ressource.

Due to my phone running low on storage I've had to uninstall some apps lately and switch to the mobile web version. In the process, I realized that many of these webapps effectively worked almost identically to their app counterparts with only very minor differences that didn't impact my usage at all. Actually for some of them the main difference is that the webapp will push very hard for you to install the app with…

For everything that works as an app and is good enough in a mobile phone Firefox, I always chose the combo Firefox+Bookmark. This way I can also block half the trackers that are include in the app/webpage.

With this setup though you miss out on the 'benefits' of the notifications :)

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by aembleton »

eric4smith wrote: post #145

On a side note... (side note!! sheesh!) "Polyamory ...is the practice of, or desire for, intimate relationships with more than one partner, with the informed consent of all partners involved" Sounds good, and has been the case for thousands of years. But modern dating apps and social media are pushing us back to this practice in quite a big (and informal) way. Its innate female nature for women to choose the best men…

> Do you notice it too?

Nope, not in my circle of friends and I didn't even know about Polyamory apps until this article. I've no doubt there are many of them but it is not something that interests me or something I've ever talked about.

Do your friends talk about it? Do any of them use these apps?

> all women can now access that top 20% of men quite easily

How? Surely, many of them are already taken and most will be faithful; after all that has got to be one of the attributes defining them as "best". I don't think its any easier for women than it is for men.

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Post by DC1350 »

hasmolo wrote: post #150
eric4smith wrote: post #145

On a side note... (side note!! sheesh!) "Polyamory ...is the practice of, or desire for, intimate relationships with more than one partner, with the informed consent of all partners involved" Sounds good, and has been the case for thousands of years. But modern dating apps and social media are pushing us back to this practice in quite a big (and informal) way. Its innate female nature for women to choose the best men…

i don’t think that increased access to “top tier” men is the root cause of this feeling. it seems to me like choices for women around partners were largely made for them for most of history. this led to men from wealth and power to define the “good” traits. the traits we defined were largely based on status. now that access to people with these traits is no longer based on who a woman’s guardian knows, but what’s ava…

You're kind of right. A lot of marriages were historically done for reasons other than love. Most women aren't sexually attracted to their husbands but they still needed a provider. Now that women are economic equals to men they have no reason to ever settle for guys they don't like, which is most guys. If you've ever seen a woman use a dating app you know that they're all flooded with dozens of messages from hot guys who would love to have sex with them but would never considering marrying them. So women who don't need to marry average guys are happy to wait their turn for a sexual encounter with a top guy instead of giving a regular guy a chance.

The idea that we have the ability to "push" for what's desirable makes no sense at all and it's not possible.

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Post by alpaca128 »

sideshowb wrote: post #119
waheoo wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ugh. Why do we even need an app store exactly? Visit site. Click download app. Click install. This pattern has worked for 20 years. What changed? Nothing. Google and apple just decided it wanted a walled garden and ya'll said ooo shiny.

Though I share your sentiments, that pattern worked very well at infecting machines with malware for 20 years because the average user is a bad judge of which sites to trust to install software on their device. Then again, app stores haven't solved the malware problem, and neither have solutions like trusted publishers / signing executables / etc. I look forward to seeing a solution that isn't worst-of-both-worlds.

> I look forward to seeing a solution that isn't worst-of-both-worlds

Software repositories? Still not perfect in terms of security but better than manually searching for installer packages, deciding between the official download that requires some account registration or a slightly questionable download site and then hoping for the best. Same for updates - the way many third-party programs on Windows expect me to basically download and reinstall the whole program again unless the developer built their own custom auto-updater is ridiculous.

And for the average user I'd say technologies between flatpak and Snap are a decent step in the right direction - easier installation and updates, less trouble with dependencies(in theory), a bit of isolation and file access limits. Unless you want to explain relatives how to setup Qubes OS this is probably the next best thing within the near future.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by Griffinsauce »

odshoifsdhfs wrote: post #123
Griffinsauce wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How was it at all justifiable for AOC to demand Parler be shutdown, for tech companies to immediately fall in line That's not what happened and you know it. AOC wasn't a singular voice, there were lots of people calling for Parler to be shut down. I'm not going to engage with the rest of it, but this point is important because it's being used to demonize another human being. You're repeating a narrative without scr…

I am not American or follow US politics that much, but did she ask for Parler to be shutdown? If she did, even if others did as well, it should be ok to point her out on this. Specially (from what I understand from seeing some of her twitter posts on Reddit) if she is very vocal on Twitter (reminded me of accusing Ted Cruz of trying to assassinate her tweet) about these things and can rally support for it through soc…

> If she did, even if others did as well, it should be ok to point her out on this

That exactly my point, the original comment points her out as the only or the main voice. That is just not true, it paints a skewed picture. She was either joining the choir of voices or preaching to it.

The goal of that characterisation is to demonize this one person into the source of this action. (ironically often combined with an irrational faceless "the left" to dehumanize further)

We can talk about what the influence is of a person in that position and whether it's ethical to join in such a call but that is a completely different can of worms and not what I was commenting on.

Stacking "this person did it" with "this person abused their power" is irresponsible without examining each statement.

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