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GitHub, fuck your name change

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Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by gspr »

There are parts of this article I agree with, and parts I disagree with, but this part just screaaaaams "I cannot possibly picture that any part of the world is in any way different from the US":

> “Meritocracy!”, I hear you cry. “They pick from the most talented students. The ones that worked the hardest to get into the most elite schools. The black students should have just worked harder”. I guess mummy and daddy paying $20 mil for a new library to get me a seat at an ‘elite’ school is still meritocracy eh?

It also seems like a complete digression from racial justice.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by tomtomtom777 »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #11

I would agree "slave" seems a weird choice of a word but I can see nothing wrong in "master". Not a single moment in my life I thought about slavery when hearing/seeing the word "master". Should we also rename master degrees perhaps?

> I would agree "slave" seems a weird choice of a word

Can you clarify this? If one machine/repo/system acts only on the orders of another, wouldn't "master" and "slave" be clear, descriptive choices of words?

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by [deleted] »

sergiotapia wrote: post #14

>Every summer countless tech companies of all sizes run internship programs, would it be a stretch to run an apprenticeship program of the same length for non traditional applicants? Specifically how would you define non-traditional, and in your opinion why should this non-traditional segment of people get a separate funnel?

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Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by JetAlone »

I have to agree with the writer's suggestion of hiring non-traditional job candidates. I'm teaching someone how to code pro bono to help him provide for his young family, and the anxiety that he experiences about not having the advantage I do with my degree is real.

If companies really want to do social good, they will have to prove it by putting their money where your mouth is, taking some risks, maybe they'll benefit from some new blood and a fresh perspective.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by 3saryHg6LP2e »

lcrz wrote: post #9

I just want to add a link to this[0] post here as a counterpoint for why changing language _can_ matter. The author seems to imply that the name change is all about being non-offensive to some people. Since the author doesn't find the language offensive, they conclude that name change is only political correctness or virtue signalling and a hollow gesture. I do not agree with that. Language and words are very powerfu…

This article doesn't explain how "main" is more "inclusive" than "master". I don't agree that it is at all.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by petr_tik »

sergiotapia wrote: post #14

>Every summer countless tech companies of all sizes run internship programs, would it be a stretch to run an apprenticeship program of the same length for non traditional applicants? Specifically how would you define non-traditional, and in your opinion why should this non-traditional segment of people get a separate funnel?

I’m not the OP but am “non-traditional” - didn’t do CS at university, worked in sales before moving to programming.

I don’t want a separate funnel thank you very much. I know some companies will reject my CV because of my education - that’s fair enough. I know some interviews will be harder for me. I prefer the risk of being filtered out early or having tough interviews over the lingering suspicion that I am a non-traditional hire.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by 4gotunameagain »

I just wish that all the weirdness of US politics didn't just spill out on the rest of the world like that.

We live in an age of profound cultural exchange between civilizations, and as with anything of this magnitude it has great benefits and major drawbacks

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by Dylan16807 »

lcrz wrote: post #9

I just want to add a link to this[0] post here as a counterpoint for why changing language _can_ matter. The author seems to imply that the name change is all about being non-offensive to some people. Since the author doesn't find the language offensive, they conclude that name change is only political correctness or virtue signalling and a hollow gesture. I do not agree with that. Language and words are very powerfu…

That article is garbage. He just takes it as given that the change is more inclusive.

Oh course being inclusive is good. That's not the argument here.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by robin21 »

tda wrote: post #12

Though I initially sympathized with the name change from master to main (cause I don't care what it is called), I am now more of the opinion that this kind of window-dressing might actually be harmful as it distracts from addressing the root cause. It is a bit complicated as the name change in itself is not bad, but given the context, and that it distracts from addressing real issues it actually is. Same thing with p…

It’s more about creating a new enemy in the people who still use master branch. Some people always need someone to hate on.
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