...and nobody in the valley seems to be aware of the etymology for "slave" :)
GitHub, fuck your name change
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Re: GitHub, fuck your name change
#42Lots of good points made in this. We have eradicated the usage of the exclusive terms in our team not recently but well before 2014. It's a cultural change to be precise. We are very conscious of the biases that could arise. In fact, during hiring we specifically ask the recruiters to look for diverse pool of engineers.
Still I concur with the OP's statement that the percentage of African American in the tech industry is marginal (in the US, not sure elsewhere). I don't know what we can do about this. But we have to change as a society and as individuals.
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#43>Every summer countless tech companies of all sizes run internship programs, would it be a stretch to run an apprenticeship program of the same length for non traditional applicants? Specifically how would you define non-traditional, and in your opinion why should this non-traditional segment of people get a separate funnel?
If your funnel isn’t catching certain groups then you need to do something as you’re missing the opportunity to hire talented people from those groups. Why shouldn’t that be another funnel?
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#44Though I initially sympathized with the name change from master to main (cause I don't care what it is called), I am now more of the opinion that this kind of window-dressing might actually be harmful as it distracts from addressing the root cause. It is a bit complicated as the name change in itself is not bad, but given the context, and that it distracts from addressing real issues it actually is. Same thing with p…
At the risk of being cpt obvious: https://text.npr.org/897692090
> Plastic also degrades each time it is reused, meaning it can't be reused more than once or twice.
Re: GitHub, fuck your name change
#45I just want to add a link to this[0] post here as a counterpoint for why changing language _can_ matter. The author seems to imply that the name change is all about being non-offensive to some people. Since the author doesn't find the language offensive, they conclude that name change is only political correctness or virtue signalling and a hollow gesture. I do not agree with that. Language and words are very powerfu…
Frankly this is the opinion of a white guy, why should latino and black people care about his perception of "racially charged words" like `master`? This is like some dude from Vermont telling me I should use latinx as it's more inclusive -- linguistic colonization eh
From the article, I don't believe this is "the opinion of a white guy":
Being a highly paid software engineer, like most of you reading this, did not stop a bully van flying up the curb I was walking on and 7 City of London police officers pinning me against a wall with guns in my face. They wouldn’t believe it was possible for someone like me to work in central London till one of them searched me and found my work ID. All this because I fit a description. What was this description? I don’t know, black male between 4’11 and 7’4 probably.
Re: GitHub, fuck your name change
#46This is a topic I feel cannot be openly discussed on HN (and basically everywhere else), sadly. I switched from Github to Gitlab after this change. Political correctness is a great way to know that a company has the completely wrong focus and will be unable to innovate and create good products.
> I switched from Github to Gitlab after this change
Ah ah. You didn't believe you could run away, did you?
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-bra...
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#47I’m a black American and agree with everything that this person in London wrote.
It is also a common criticism of the American “left”, and is entirely accurate.
For everyone perplexed about black Americans and other people of color walking away from the left, its because you/they don't see us as equals that can be bothered by the exact same things that other Americans can be bothered by: being told what to think, watching people be vicariously offended without asking if context in question is offensive, and the obsession with signaling instead of meaningful action.
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#48I think this is not about offending black people. It's about trying to forget what a white man did to black people.
It should never be forgotten what Nazis did to jews or white to black. Naming a main branch is just... A joke?
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#49what sucks more is Github creating default main branch on repo creation. It's an unwarrented hassle to rename it and if you don't rename it, you will definitely try to push to master and then realize the mistake and push to main, every effing time.
Re: GitHub, fuck your name change
#50I feel like this topic has been discussed a lot already, but I think it's important to keep pushing back against useless wasted man-hours like this effort is. I live in a country that was almost entirely enslaved by foreigners for ~700 years. I've discussed this rename with dozens of engineers in my country. Without exception, every single one of them thinks it's completely ridiculous. We need to keep voicing these t…
Same here in germany. When we hear the word master, most people think of the master in karate kid or the master degree of a university. I think only in the usa people are so full of hate that they directly think of bad stuff.
I wouldn't say they are full of hate. Slavery has defined the country and has repercussions still.
But I'm really worried about how we import everything American to Germany without thinking twice.
Left newspapers have started to write BIPoC everywhere when it comes to domestic issues. What exactly are the indigenous people of Germany? Even blacks are relatively rare. It would make much more sense to coin an acronym that includes Jews, Sinti and Roma, given our sordid history. But we simply take what American culture has thought up.