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JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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Re: JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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my nokia 770 disagrees (from the bottom of a tub of old cables and networking gear)

If Wikipedia is to be believed, that's smaller than many of today's smartphones (apart from the 19mm (!) thickness). Not really a tablet, despite the name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_770_Internet_Tablet

I would believe that most phones these days are bigger than an old tablet.

Heck, some phones reaching the size of my Nexus 7!

Re: JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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Don't modern ChromeOS systems let you run Linux desktop applications? They sound pretty much like they are Linux systems that beginning to let down the facade.

Yes, that’s my reason. Also, it’s rather easy to run your favorite Linux distribution on ChromeOS devices compared to Android hardware.

Awesome, I saw that you had to add in a little defensive comment and felt I should back you up.

> yes, I am willing to call these Linux tablets

They run the Linux kernel out of the box and can run standard Linux applications.

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If Wikipedia is to be believed, that's smaller than many of today's smartphones (apart from the 19mm (!) thickness). Not really a tablet, despite the name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_770_Internet_Tablet

I would believe that most phones these days are bigger than an old tablet. Heck, some phones reaching the size of my Nexus 7!

By diagonal screen measurement, yes. The Nexus 7's aspect ratio makes it much wider than phones though (120mm vs ~70-80mm). A 7" smartphone is likely to have almost no bezel too.

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I would believe that most phones these days are bigger than an old tablet. Heck, some phones reaching the size of my Nexus 7!

By diagonal screen measurement, yes. The Nexus 7's aspect ratio makes it much wider than phones though (120mm vs ~70-80mm). A 7" smartphone is likely to have almost no bezel too.

Oh, completely. My Nexus 7 had a 7" screen, while the iPhone 12 Pro Max is 6.7", and the Galaxy S 21 Ultra is 6.8".

My Nexus 7 total size was more like 9" diagonal due to bezel.

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As a Linux loving hacker, this sounds fun to play with. But pragmatically, how does something like this stack up against an iPad/iPadOS? If I'm to believe the press, Apple's chips are quite a ways ahead of the competition. And as much as I love developing on Linux running lxqt, I get the impression that display stacks and application development kits are also way behind in terms of efficiency, power use, and just gen…

If you are interested in hacking, you might want to look into DLT1: https://hackaday.io/project/164845-dlt-one-a-damn-linux-tabl...

It's not completed yet, but it's already looking awesome. Timon (a.k.a. Professor Fartsparkle, or just "professor") even managed to source a beautiful 2560x1600 10" screen.

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Pinetab should be usable before this ships, I'd bet.

The pinetab is not good enough to be anyone's daily driver

Considering how many people on the Pine64 forums and messaging groups are claiming to use their pinephones for their main phone, I suspect the Pinetab could be. The number isn't high, but it's higher than I would have guessed before (and after) I bought and started playing with mine.

I'm not saying it's a good experience, but some people have lots of patience and very few (phone-requiring) responsibilities.

Re: JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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I am unconvinced. First of all, Android is Linux based, and not an unpleasant userland if you install Termux and use LineageOS or some other custom fork. Second, even if you don't count Android, there's still Ubuntu Mobile, and PostmarketOS, and Sailfish, and Mobian, and others, all of which existed before this as far as I can tell. Third, this website is drowning in rough marketing speak, with little substance. I ca…

With Sailfish some of us are still a bit sore over the Jolla Tablet [0] that never shipped and wasn't refunded.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla_Tablet

Re: JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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Most of them, honestly. Lubuntu is probably the easy choice, or Alpine if you're really resource constrained and don't mind configuring it all yourself.

Now this is sad, but a decade old system would be Sandy/Ivy bridge era hardware, which isn't that bad for non-graphic intensive stuff. I would hazard that most consumers wouldn't be able to tell much of a difference with current hardware, especially as an e-reader. They don't tell us what they have or how much memory is installed, but if it is a convertable laptop with a touchscreen or similar then I would try Gnome.…

It's an i3 with AMD Radeon 6470M, I was thinking of using https://babluboy.github.io/bookworm/ as a library for PDFs but I think I'd rather stick with hackintosh on it(older macOS version/Mountain Lion) & simply use iBooks as a library for on device PDFs, since Preview is decent enough for my needs

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The pinetab is not good enough to be anyone's daily driver

Considering how many people on the Pine64 forums and messaging groups are claiming to use their pinephones for their main phone, I suspect the Pinetab could be. The number isn't high, but it's higher than I would have guessed before (and after) I bought and started playing with mine. I'm not saying it's a good experience, but some people have lots of patience and very few (phone-requiring) responsibilities.

Who are these people? I have a pinephone and it is nowhere near ready to be my main phone at all. It can't even make phone calls reliably.

It's a cool thing to play with but it is nowhere near to being a main driver.

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