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Re: Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn

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Can't sign up. Broken. No error, just spins and quits spinning.

Apologies. We experienced classic 1st day server crash. Working to restore services ASAP. Thank you for your interest and patience. -Ron

Keep plugging. If this stuff was easy, everyone would do it.

Re: Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn

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I can't help but attempt to apply Kant's categorical imperative to this approach. Is this something I would wish as a universal rule? What about folks who have really bad luck and participate in organizations that are a bad fit for their personality? Their score immediately goes down, and then the odds of them finding a better fit plummet. There is no "fresh start," so to speak. If everybody used this system to make…

if i work with outcasts that fit my personality i get positive points and get back to the top. No? (btw. is there a formula how that score works. maybe older votes expire)

Re: Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn

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> "I am a software engineer.... Companies are truly only buying a subset of skills on the labour market." yeah, if you buy in wholesale and premise your argument that way, then of course arguing the premise seems ludicrous. i'm questioning that acceptance itself. when it comes to value creation, it's rarely the skills list that makes a person, a team, a company, effective, but rather an unquantifiable synergy of indi…

> but rather an unquantifiable synergy of individualistic and combined abilities. Interesting. Basketball is an extremely team integrated sport. 100% of the time is spent playing as a team. Do you find workplace teams to be near that level of integration? Maybe my thinking comes from not working on particularly integrated teams.

knowing nothing else, i'd bet that your workplace value creation encompasses a bigger team around you than you may perceive in your day-to-day. that is, unless you're designing, developing, testing, deploying, securing, marketing, documenting, supporting, accounting for, financing, and selling everything yourself. but even then, you'll often have others helping you, either on contract or in an advisory or support capacity. all of that stuff needs to be sync'ed up and holistically delivered to customers.

basketball is my go-to first-order microcosm of work life, but you can see the same representative dynamics in other facets of life, like a band. similarly, i think of pets as first-order humans, endlessly fascinating and instructive to observe and interact with. =)

Re: Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn

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You have built a social credit system [0]. Such systems harm individuals and society. I think you overestimate the willingness of people to participate in such a system. And if you succeed in manipulating enough users into joining, would your conscience make you miserable? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System

I do not agree that we are building a social credit system. There are some similarities to what is happening in China, but SELLFF is fundamentally different in almost every way. To anyone who is interested in comparing the differences, you can find 100's of links from your favorite search engine. If we step back a moment and look at this objectively, we are only focused on matching buyers and sellers. It's a marketpl…

>Everything we are doing is focused on making the buyer/seller interaction easier and more efficient. It seems the TRU Score is a concern evident in many of the comments. Yet, how is this different [or worse] than star ratings on Yelp, Amazon or any other rating service. Other than the initial calculations that comprise the score, all changes in the scores are based on the community of members.

And what's happening with Yelp and Amazon star ratings? There's abusive corruption within the community in these systems with the score-holders and/or score-takers gaming the system. Requests for 5 stars on packaging involving coupons that are practically bribery, enough corruption on Yelp to precipitate an entire South Park episode about it and many investigations, to the point people don't trust it anymore and comments on here talk about mentally adjusting google scores to equivalents that roughly fit to pre-corruption yelp scores. Government leaders of China and especially the citizens who report on each other or cooperate together in a high-visibility manner to gain status in the system are community members.

It's worse because it will affect the livelihoods of private citizens who cannot rebrand or close their store/seller account and start again somewhere else because web trackers will remember who they are by their face, ip, etc, and a history that starts mid-career might look too funny if this catches on. Please be part of the solution and take us a step away from an omni-corporate panopticon rather than closer. If a system like this is necessary for you to compete with linkedin because your potential corporate clients are requesting or suggesting it (because it adds value to them, extracted from workers who now have a direct, public, "employability credit score" to maintain), I urge you to reconsider if the field you're in is even truly ethical enough to be worth doing or if you have a personal, ethical imperative to get out, while you still can. God willing, you can remove the feature and create a decent platform that succeeds on merits without playing a handin further debasing the value of human labour in favour of our corporate masters (who already have so very much), for a new generation.

Re: Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn

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Second. I want a LinkedIn that respects its users. Sellff doesn't need to make a product that is much different from LinkedIn. 1. Let me make an online resume, publicly connect with past colleagues, and give and receive recommendations and skills endorsements. 2. Sell job postings. 3. Sell search tools for jobs & candidates. 4. Don't trick people into uploading their contacts. 5. Don't provide an Invite All feature.…

I've been on and off attempting to make a linked in competitor that is exactly this. Won't finish it anytime soon but might heat it up in a year or so.

I look forward to trying it out. :)

Re: Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn

#179

I don’t want a score associated with my name, so I wouldn’t use your service. I wonder how many people would like to have an associated “trust” score; I mean if you are an average individual I imagine you would get an average score of, let’s say, 5 over 10... you’ll look ridiculously untrustworthy compared to someone who has a score of 9/10. At least in the real world you have a chance to prove that you could be as t…

Valid point and I understand the concern. However [at least in the USA] we are all scored in many different ways. This includes: credit scores, insurance scores, criminal scores, employer/employee scores, education scores, etc. Yes, these examples are private and only visible to certain people [unless hacked]. Whereas the SELLFF TRU Score is public and visible to everyone. We have been transparent about how the value…

Those scores almost without exception come from authoratative sources, not crowdsourcing.

If you crowdsource reputation, people will be able to buy it.

Re: Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn

#180

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I've been on and off attempting to make a linked in competitor that is exactly this. Won't finish it anytime soon but might heat it up in a year or so.

I look forward to trying it out. :)

I created https://jsonresume.org/

I hope to leverage my influence there to start a linkedin competitor, and will set up a nice basic for having a more trusting/open relationship with the users around their data.

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