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Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

#81
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This article is tired excuses dressed up as freedom. They want to travel the road but not pay the toll.

On top of letting the toll take 30% on the merchandise on each deliveries on the ONLY road available on their platform. They already pay their Apple Developer Program yearly membership fees. If Apples deem this isn't enough, then they should raise the cost to properly take that into account.

This is terrible business advice. Look how wildly successful their model is. It’s the example of how other app stores run their businesses.

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

#82
post #5

It is still absolutely fascinating to me how we have arrived at a point where in order to use one's own device properly, one has to ask a US company nicely or be unable to do so - and people pay money for it. On macOS, it is now impossible to distribute a VPN or a virtualization software without permission from Apple. 30% of the world's population would, if their government cut a deal with Apple, be unable to install…

in order to use one's own device properly

It boils down to someone's personal definition of "properly."

You are on HN. Your definition of using a device "properly" is very different from the vast majority of the other human beings on the planet. You're not Apple's target audience, and that's OK. The more of you there are, the more force there is for creating other options. But don't pretend that there is only one "proper" way to use a device.

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

#83
post #10

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FYI you don’t need WiFi to activate. You can activate via iTunes / macOS if you plug it in.

I don't have either of those. From previous experiences, it's my understanding that activation means resetting and erasing it.

iTunes is also available on Windows. Might not help if you run Linux.

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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post #83

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I don't have either of those. From previous experiences, it's my understanding that activation means resetting and erasing it.

iTunes is also available on Windows. Might not help if you run Linux.

I'm not using Windows.

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

#86
post #5

It is still absolutely fascinating to me how we have arrived at a point where in order to use one's own device properly, one has to ask a US company nicely or be unable to do so - and people pay money for it. On macOS, it is now impossible to distribute a VPN or a virtualization software without permission from Apple. 30% of the world's population would, if their government cut a deal with Apple, be unable to install…

in order to use one's own device properly It boils down to someone's personal definition of "properly." You are on HN. Your definition of using a device "properly" is very different from the vast majority of the other human beings on the planet. You're not Apple's target audience, and that's OK. The more of you there are, the more force there is for creating other options. But don't pretend that there is only one "pr…

Exactly. Many users don't have a concept of how to use a phone "wrong." For example, they blame the phone when they follow internet instructions to sideload an app which causes bugs.

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

#87
post #5

It is still absolutely fascinating to me how we have arrived at a point where in order to use one's own device properly, one has to ask a US company nicely or be unable to do so - and people pay money for it. On macOS, it is now impossible to distribute a VPN or a virtualization software without permission from Apple. 30% of the world's population would, if their government cut a deal with Apple, be unable to install…

On the other hand, I spend 0% of my time managing iOS devices for my parents and am constantly bombarded with issues from my in-laws with Android phones. I agree that some of Apple's behavior is monopolistic and has some unfortunate, possibly unforeseen consequences, but the end result is pretty nice for the consumers who are willing to accept the compromise.

I'm always amazed that in the land of the brave and free butchering general purpose computing machines is supposed to be justified by the fact grandma doesn't install the wrong apps.

Funny is this argument always exclusively pops up when it comes to Apple smartphones. Are we supposed to lock every desktop down too because mom and pop installed a wrong toolbar? It's like the reverse 'but think of the children', and people keep using it who would scoff at it in every other context, just to engage in this constant Apple apologia that has infected tech people who should know better but don't because they've grown up with macbooks with shitty stickers on it. The sort of brand influence that Apple exercises and the stuff it gets away with is truly astonishing.

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Thanks, it is indeed a SIM-capable iPad. I had no idea this kind of thing could happen with it. I appreciate your lead, though I'm not sure where I would get a new SIM? It hasn't been hooked up to the network for several years now, why would it "go bad" now? Also, do you know if I could have prevented this by removing the SIM before it happened?

> I’m not sure where I could get a new SIM? Do you have a mobile phone? Pop it out, put it in the iPad, activate it, take it out again. In New Zealand, where I’m from, you can get SIM cards from supermarkets, petrol stations, convenience stores …

I actually do not, haven't had one for years. :)

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

#89

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On the other hand, I spend 0% of my time managing iOS devices for my parents and am constantly bombarded with issues from my in-laws with Android phones. I agree that some of Apple's behavior is monopolistic and has some unfortunate, possibly unforeseen consequences, but the end result is pretty nice for the consumers who are willing to accept the compromise.

I'm always amazed that in the land of the brave and free butchering general purpose computing machines is supposed to be justified by the fact grandma doesn't install the wrong apps. Funny is this argument always exclusively pops up when it comes to Apple smartphones. Are we supposed to lock every desktop down too because mom and pop installed a wrong toolbar? It's like the reverse 'but think of the children', and pe…

> Funny is this argument always exclusively pops up when it comes to Apple smartphones. Are we supposed to lock every desktop down too because mom and pop installed a wrong toolbar?

Yeah I really wish we could... how many human hours have been wasted cleaning up infected garbage on friends and family desktop computers?

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

#90
post #5

It is still absolutely fascinating to me how we have arrived at a point where in order to use one's own device properly, one has to ask a US company nicely or be unable to do so - and people pay money for it. On macOS, it is now impossible to distribute a VPN or a virtualization software without permission from Apple. 30% of the world's population would, if their government cut a deal with Apple, be unable to install…

On the other hand, I spend 0% of my time managing iOS devices for my parents and am constantly bombarded with issues from my in-laws with Android phones. I agree that some of Apple's behavior is monopolistic and has some unfortunate, possibly unforeseen consequences, but the end result is pretty nice for the consumers who are willing to accept the compromise.

Not true, it depends on what one is used to. My father for example always used Android, now he got an iPhone and he find it more difficult to use, to the point that it asks me even trivial things. It's a myth that iOS is more simple to use than Android, there are things that are more complicated.
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