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Re: Electric car that charges itself

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Eliminate HOAs and you've destroyed the basic mechanism that makes common maintenance practical for high-density non-rental housing.

It seems to me HOAs aren't mostly about maintainence, they're mostly about old farts yelling at you for installing a fence or planting the wrong type of flower or using the wrong color of paint. None of that stuff affects maintainence. Those farts shouldn't even be allowed to step on land they don't own. The stuff that actually affects maintainence, I can understand, but participation should be optional by law. If yo…

How do you intend to make participation in maintenance of a highrise building, of which you occupy one unit, optional? [1]

HOAs don't make a lick of sense for suburban blocks, but you can't do without them when you share a building.

[1] You could try the Soviet model, where people took care of their personal apartments, while the common areas and infrastructure of most buildings would go to shit. I've seen it, I'm not eager to re-live it.

Re: Electric car that charges itself

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It's easy to dismiss this as green washing, but there is some value to it for city cars. The amount of electricity generated is never going to be enough to fully power the car, but that's not really the point. If having solar panels on your car roof means you can avoid charging much in summer, that will make owning an electric car for people who live in cities much simpler - and so support adoption. As a back of the…

This topic came up on the recent Joe Rogan with Elon Musk. Elon said they considered it, but in the end it is just not worth it. He said there is just not enough surface area on a car to contribute a worthwhile amount of electricity. The numbers quoted for this particular vehicle are very optimistic I think. If you’re lucky, you might get 5 miles a day out of it. What happens if it’s cloudy or rainy for a week? Or yo…

I think where it might help is that time when the notch of power consumption matches the peak of power production: the middle of the day.

That is the time when a car parked in the hot sun causes the internal A/C to run to keep the car cooler.

Telsa cars will run the A/C when the internal temperatures reach 105°F (configurable)

This might be a good time to counterbalance the battery loss with the solar power peak.

Re: Electric car that charges itself

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post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to me HOAs aren't mostly about maintainence, they're mostly about old farts yelling at you for installing a fence or planting the wrong type of flower or using the wrong color of paint. None of that stuff affects maintainence. Those farts shouldn't even be allowed to step on land they don't own. The stuff that actually affects maintainence, I can understand, but participation should be optional by law. If yo…

How do you intend to make participation in maintenance of a highrise building, of which you occupy one unit, optional? [1] HOAs don't make a lick of sense for suburban blocks, but you can't do without them when you share a building. [1] You could try the Soviet model, where people took care of their personal apartments, while the common areas and infrastructure of most buildings would go to shit. I've seen it, I'm no…

For highrise buildings I agree that you should need approval to touch the utility infrastructure.

I was referring more to HOAs for suburban blocks, which are extraordinarily common in the US. Many of them are obsessed about whether you can park your car in the driveway, what kind of car you're allowed to own, what kinds of plants you can plant in your front yard, the color of your house, modifications to the aesthetics of your house, and other stupid things. Welcome to the "land of the free".

Re: Electric car that charges itself

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A cheap, easy to set up solar car port in the driveway would make more sense for suburban dwellers. Guessing HOA's would lose their shit though.

> Guessing HOA's would lose their shit though. Perhaps there should be legal escape hatches from HOA rules specifically for energy efficiency upgrades. I don't generally advocate for centralization of power (ie, a state imposing its will on a community), but in the case of climate change I'll happily make exceptions.

I think HOAs can be overridden.

For example, the FCC has a carve-out that allows you to put up a satellite dish, in spite of any HOA regulation.

Re: Electric car that charges itself

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> Guessing HOA's would lose their shit though. Perhaps there should be legal escape hatches from HOA rules specifically for energy efficiency upgrades. I don't generally advocate for centralization of power (ie, a state imposing its will on a community), but in the case of climate change I'll happily make exceptions.

Honestly I don't see why we can't just outlaw HOAs. If you own something you should be able to do whatever you want with it. It seems like a simple constitutional right to me.

I think there is a spectrum of regulation that happens the closer you live to other people.

I had a friend who lived in a dome house. It could not have been built in an incorporated area of his state.

Re: Electric car that charges itself

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Musk is building cars for a mainly american style market - long drives and private parking. topping up 5 miles a day means that a full battery will last me and the 1.8 million UK cars that do under 2000 miles a year, months between having to plug in and recharge.

If your commute is less than 5 miles a day, you should probably be riding a bike or an ebike. Pushing around a big car to travel what is essentially walking distance is a waste (and expensive). Even 10 miles a day is easy ebike range.

In my case, it's not every day, it's narrow country lanes, it rains, it involves transporting kids and equipment.

You seem to be claiming it's better to travel 50 miles a day by car than 10 miles a day, which is clearly wrong.

Re: Electric car that charges itself

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As the vice president of my HOA (for a few more months) I'm happy to report that I've never heard of a request for solar installation that wasn't approved on the first request.

This is the kind of thing that makes my blood boil. Why is this even an approval? Why do you think you have ANY say over their solar installation? Why does it even have to go through an approval process for anything other than fire/electrical/building safety? It's not your property. Stay out.

I don't even know. The HOA was here before I moved in. Why are you so angry?

To be literal, the reason I think "I" (actually the HOA) have a say is because a bunch of legal paperwork says so. All the home owners signed it.

A year from now I won't have any say, because I won't be on the board.

Generally, I like the HOA since they mow my lawn. But if you are religiously opposed to being a member of an HOA, then you just wouldn't move into a house that's subject to one. All the people that live in this neighborhood were aware of it before they moved in.

Different people want different things.

Re: Electric car that charges itself

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There is literally no place in the world where you can do "whatever you want" with property, for the simple reason that allowing you to do so would dramatically affect your neighbours in ways that would substantially restrict how they can use their property. It's a fair argument that conversely many types of restrictions on what you can do are unjustified and overly broad, but arguing from the basis that you should b…

> dramatically affect your neighbours in ways that would substantially restrict how they can use their property. Well yes, if you practice the tuba at 3am, raise alligators in your backyard, and beekeeping in your front yard, then yes. But painting your house? Building a shed? Parking a car in the driveway? Building a fence? Adding architectural ornaments? Install solar panels? None of this stuff affects neighbours.

Yes, I think it is the degree of the regulations.

Examples: no cars parked on your front yard.

Check.

No solar panels on your roof.

That would be too far.

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