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Docker Raises $23M

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Re: Docker Raises $23M

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Post by endisneigh »

GordonS wrote: post #119
endisneigh wrote: post #3

I hope they work on Docker Swarm. “Docker compose” for multiple machines needs working on!

I'm still using Docker Swarm in production, and it's great! You write Compose files (which are succinct compared with k8s), with an optional smattering of just a few extra functions (such as for configs and secrets). You can easily specify how many replicas you want, constrain them to certain nodes with labels, use health checks for auto restarts etc. If you can write Compose files, you can do Docker Swarm - it's so…

Your sentiment is precisely why I prefer Docker Swarm. I have heard good things about Nomad. I'm not sure if it's as simple, though.

Re: Docker Raises $23M

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Post by swyx »

tw04 wrote: post #117
paxys wrote: post #27

Considering how entrenched Docker has been in global tech infrastructure for so many years, I automatically assumed that the company was worth billions already, but guess not. I wonder why they haven't been bought out by Microsoft or Google, if nothing else then just for the talent.

>I wonder why they haven't been bought out by Microsoft or Google, if nothing else then just for the talent. Because they received an insane valuation years ago and probably aren't even worth break-even on their funding rounds. Google already has far more K8s knowledge internally than anyone at docker, so what would be their gain? MS did try to buy them back in 2016 but Docker pulled an Jerry* Yang and said no [1]. I…

i'm not up on my political references; what does "pull an Andrew Yang" mean?

Re: Docker Raises $23M

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Post by pram »

LeSaucy wrote: post #106
dpkrjb wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d imagine that some of their valuation was based on the future success of docker swarm and what they would monetise around it

Was there ever a technical reason why swarm never won out in the market? I've still got a couple of multi-node swarms that work great and are WAY easier to configure than k8s. I never really understood why it didn't take off.

This is kind of reductive. You could ask the same for nomad, mesos, and lots of other things. It wasn't just swarm vs k8s

Re: Docker Raises $23M

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Post by dgellow »

Nullabillity wrote: post #113
polyrand wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now there's something called Swarm mode built directly into the main Docker engine. I think that was the "replacement" of the classic Docker Swarm.

That migration was way before the acquisition. The Mirantis deprecation is about Swarm Mode.

All of this is so confusing…

Re: Docker Raises $23M

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Post by cheriot »

cutemonster wrote: post #101
botswana99 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are not developed by a 'community'. The developers who build it are paid for by investors. Those investors want a huge return. It's not open source, it's bait and wait

Bait and wait and ... But what's step 3? Doesn't seem to work super well, hmm

MySQL was acquired for 1B. Elastic is currently worth 10B. Redhat was acquired for 34B.

What's not working well?

Re: Docker Raises $23M

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Post by tw04 »

swyx wrote: post #122
tw04 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I wonder why they haven't been bought out by Microsoft or Google, if nothing else then just for the talent. Because they received an insane valuation years ago and probably aren't even worth break-even on their funding rounds. Google already has far more K8s knowledge internally than anyone at docker, so what would be their gain? MS did try to buy them back in 2016 but Docker pulled an Jerry* Yang and said no [1]. I…

i'm not up on my political references; what does "pull an Andrew Yang" mean?

It has absolutely nothing to do with politics. Microsoft offered to acquire Yahoo for $44.6 billion dollars in 2008 [1]. Jerry* Yang turned them down claiming the offer "substantially undervalued" the company. 8 years later they sold to Verizon for $5 billion [2].

[1] https://www.cnet.com/news/yahoo-rejects-microsofts-bid/

[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2016/07/25/yahoo-s...

*I incorrectly said Andrew Yang initially, my apologies for my bad memory and any confusion it may have caused. Thank you Hexcles for the correction.

Re: Docker Raises $23M

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Post by ForHackernews »

pram wrote: post #124
LeSaucy wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was there ever a technical reason why swarm never won out in the market? I've still got a couple of multi-node swarms that work great and are WAY easier to configure than k8s. I never really understood why it didn't take off.

This is kind of reductive. You could ask the same for nomad, mesos, and lots of other things. It wasn't just swarm vs k8s

How is it reductive?

I do ask the same question for all those other systems, or the meta-question: "How is it that the bloated monstrosity of Kubernetes somehow became the de-facto container orchestration tool?"

Is this just sysadmins buying themselves job security?

Re: Docker Raises $23M

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Post by TheGRS »

justicezyx wrote: post #118
pjmlp wrote: post #111

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I was already doing containers with HP-UX Vaults in version 11 back in 1999. Just like any tool that doesn't offer more than an abstraction layer over OS features, eventually it becomes irrelevant as OS tooling improves.

From [1] > This is a Virtual Vault release of HP-UX, providing enhanced security features. Virtual Vault is a compartmentalised operating system in which each file is assigned a compartment and processes only have access to files in the appropriate compartment and unlike most other UNIX systems the superuser (or root) does not have complete access to the system without following correct procedures. It's cgroup + chro…

And Slack is just IRC for people who don't know better am I right?
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