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Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Post by zepto »

pojntfx wrote: post #5

It is still absolutely fascinating to me how we have arrived at a point where in order to use one's own device properly, one has to ask a US company nicely or be unable to do so - and people pay money for it. On macOS, it is now impossible to distribute a VPN or a virtualization software without permission from Apple. 30% of the world's population would, if their government cut a deal with Apple, be unable to install…

The solution you are proposing is worse than the problem.

If Apple were forced to allow multiple stores or sideloading, governments that right now have no leverage with Apple would force their citizens to install government stores and apps.

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Post by nemothekid »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #4

A few years ago, I got my grandmother an iPad. She used it for years until she passed. I just powered it on yesterday and it now "requires activation", which won't complete via WiFi. All the data on it, e.g. pictures, is now inaccessible. It is, effectively, bricked. I'll sooner eat a pile of shit before I ever touch or recommend another Apple product again. Edit: To clarify, it was never locked or password protected…

"Apple won't let me to break into an iPad I don't own" isn't as bad as you are trying to make it seem.

In other words, why are you surprised that you can't hack into an Apple device?

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Post by Stephen304 »

prophesi wrote: post #8

Does Librem One allow you to download the OpenVPN/Wireguard profiles? Because then you can just download OpenVPN Connect and get just about the same experience. Sounds much more free than using a VPN app that can't be used with other VPN servers. This way you can still pay for Librem One outside the app, and thereby circumvent the 30% toll, and continue to serve your iOS users.

The Android docs seem to hint that it's using ovpn profiles under the hood - it shouldn't be too hard to get the config file if it isn't already provided in the librem one website: https://docs.puri.sm/Librem_One/Android/VPN_Tunnel.html

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

nemothekid wrote: post #12
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #4

A few years ago, I got my grandmother an iPad. She used it for years until she passed. I just powered it on yesterday and it now "requires activation", which won't complete via WiFi. All the data on it, e.g. pictures, is now inaccessible. It is, effectively, bricked. I'll sooner eat a pile of shit before I ever touch or recommend another Apple product again. Edit: To clarify, it was never locked or password protected…

"Apple won't let me to break into an iPad I don't own" isn't as bad as you are trying to make it seem. In other words, why are you surprised that you can't hack into an Apple device?

Because it worked fine last time I used it, it was never locked. I do own it. It was bought outright by me. I later inherited it legally and rightfully.

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

phren0logy wrote: post #7
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #4

A few years ago, I got my grandmother an iPad. She used it for years until she passed. I just powered it on yesterday and it now "requires activation", which won't complete via WiFi. All the data on it, e.g. pictures, is now inaccessible. It is, effectively, bricked. I'll sooner eat a pile of shit before I ever touch or recommend another Apple product again. Edit: To clarify, it was never locked or password protected…

This is unfortunate, but isn't this a fundamental trade-off for some of the privacy protections iOS offers? Or am I misunderstanding the situation.

It was never locked before, not even a four-digit screen lock. I have no idea why this happened and no recourse.

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

lyptt wrote: post #10
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #4

A few years ago, I got my grandmother an iPad. She used it for years until she passed. I just powered it on yesterday and it now "requires activation", which won't complete via WiFi. All the data on it, e.g. pictures, is now inaccessible. It is, effectively, bricked. I'll sooner eat a pile of shit before I ever touch or recommend another Apple product again. Edit: To clarify, it was never locked or password protected…

FYI you don’t need WiFi to activate. You can activate via iTunes / macOS if you plug it in.

I don't have either of those.

From previous experiences, it's my understanding that activation means resetting and erasing it.

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Post by karlshea »

zepto wrote: post #11
pojntfx wrote: post #5

It is still absolutely fascinating to me how we have arrived at a point where in order to use one's own device properly, one has to ask a US company nicely or be unable to do so - and people pay money for it. On macOS, it is now impossible to distribute a VPN or a virtualization software without permission from Apple. 30% of the world's population would, if their government cut a deal with Apple, be unable to install…

The solution you are proposing is worse than the problem. If Apple were forced to allow multiple stores or sideloading, governments that right now have no leverage with Apple would force their citizens to install government stores and apps.

This isn't speculation, there's literally an article on 9to5mac today about how the new iOS update will be pre-selecting apps provided by the Russian government on device setup to comply with a new law there. For now you can deselect/remove them.

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Post by akmarinov »

zepto wrote: post #11
pojntfx wrote: post #5

It is still absolutely fascinating to me how we have arrived at a point where in order to use one's own device properly, one has to ask a US company nicely or be unable to do so - and people pay money for it. On macOS, it is now impossible to distribute a VPN or a virtualization software without permission from Apple. 30% of the world's population would, if their government cut a deal with Apple, be unable to install…

The solution you are proposing is worse than the problem. If Apple were forced to allow multiple stores or sideloading, governments that right now have no leverage with Apple would force their citizens to install government stores and apps.

That's really not an issue right now. Governments ARE forcing Apple to preinstall government apps right now.

https://9to5mac.com/2021/03/16/russia-pre-install-iphone-app...

Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Post by m-p-3 »

imwillofficial wrote: post #3

This article is tired excuses dressed up as freedom. They want to travel the road but not pay the toll.

On top of letting the toll take 30% on the merchandise on each deliveries on the ONLY road available on their platform.

They already pay their Apple Developer Program yearly membership fees. If Apples deem this isn't enough, then they should raise the cost to properly take that into account.

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