Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS

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Post by Stephen304 » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 4:59 PM UTC

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:19 PM UTC

> Their use of the App Store to disadvantage competitors (such as when they removed competing parental control apps in the name of privacy coincidentally when launching their own).

My experience seeing parent control apps, are that they likely leak private data either intentionally or unintentionally. These apps, would have access to all sorts of data, and unless the developers are both very scrupulous and very competent, it is easy for private info to be leaked. I am far more comfortable with Apple handling that, than a third party.

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Post by imwillofficial » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:19 PM UTC

This article is tired excuses dressed up as freedom. They want to travel the road but not pay the toll.

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Post by forgotmypw17 » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:22 PM UTC

A few years ago, I got my grandmother an iPad. She used it for years until she passed. I just powered it on yesterday and it now "requires activation", which won't complete via WiFi. All the data on it, e.g. pictures, is now inaccessible. It is, effectively, bricked. I'll sooner eat a pile of shit before I ever touch or recommend another Apple product again.

Edit: To clarify, it was never locked or password protected before, and I would use it to look at pictures in the Photos app locally. I hadn't used it for several months.

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Post by pojntfx » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:22 PM UTC

It is still absolutely fascinating to me how we have arrived at a point where in order to use one's own device properly, one has to ask a US company nicely or be unable to do so - and people pay money for it. On macOS, it is now impossible to distribute a VPN or a virtualization software without permission from Apple. 30% of the world's population would, if their government cut a deal with Apple, be unable to install a certain app at the flip of a button (check Spain's Catalonia referendum or Hong Kong, etc.). I really do hope that some EU regulation will force device manufacturers above a certain market size to allow a) sideloading apps and b) allow different browser engines as boycotts seem to no longer work after a certain amount of market penetration.

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Post by protomyth » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:26 PM UTC

Apple is requiring us to add the ability to sign up and pay for Librem One subscriptions within the Librem Tunnel app before they will allow updated versions into the App Store.

This the basically the summation of it all. Doesn't Apple require the ability to have anonymous logins too when creating accounts on iDevices?

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Post by phren0logy » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:27 PM UTC

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #4

A few years ago, I got my grandmother an iPad. She used it for years until she passed. I just powered it on yesterday and it now "requires activation", which won't complete via WiFi. All the data on it, e.g. pictures, is now inaccessible. It is, effectively, bricked. I'll sooner eat a pile of shit before I ever touch or recommend another Apple product again. Edit: To clarify, it was never locked or password protected…

This is unfortunate, but isn't this a fundamental trade-off for some of the privacy protections iOS offers? Or am I misunderstanding the situation.

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Post by prophesi » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:27 PM UTC

Does Librem One allow you to download the OpenVPN/Wireguard profiles? Because then you can just download OpenVPN Connect and get just about the same experience. Sounds much more free than using a VPN app that can't be used with other VPN servers.

This way you can still pay for Librem One outside the app, and thereby circumvent the 30% toll, and continue to serve your iOS users.

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Post by emteycz » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:27 PM UTC

pojntfx wrote: post #5

It is still absolutely fascinating to me how we have arrived at a point where in order to use one's own device properly, one has to ask a US company nicely or be unable to do so - and people pay money for it. On macOS, it is now impossible to distribute a VPN or a virtualization software without permission from Apple. 30% of the world's population would, if their government cut a deal with Apple, be unable to install…

EU will sooner ban encryption than do this.

And who cares then...

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Post by lyptt » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:29 PM UTC

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #4

A few years ago, I got my grandmother an iPad. She used it for years until she passed. I just powered it on yesterday and it now "requires activation", which won't complete via WiFi. All the data on it, e.g. pictures, is now inaccessible. It is, effectively, bricked. I'll sooner eat a pile of shit before I ever touch or recommend another Apple product again. Edit: To clarify, it was never locked or password protected…

FYI you don’t need WiFi to activate. You can activate via iTunes / macOS if you plug it in.