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Electric car that charges itself

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Re: Electric car that charges itself

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This may be a stupid question but given that these cars literally absorb light... do they pose a danger on the roads in terms of visibility to other motorists?

Probably no more than any black car. They are moving, they have lights, they should be visible.

Nevertheless very black materials can be stunningly dark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantablack

Re: Electric car that charges itself

#13
The comparisons that they’re showing on their “Solar Integration” page is disingenuous at best. They state their cells have 20-22% efficiency, comparing them to much older silicon cells with 16% efficiency. The reality is modern affordable cells [1] have the same %22 efficiency that they have.

“The polymer coatings of our cells do not splinter” but I bet the cells themselves sure as hell do. Cracks are hard to spot and can render an entire series string of cells useless. Top side body panels I wouldn’t be so worried about, but the doors... really?

[1] https://us.sunpower.com/sites/default/files/sp-gen2-solar-ce...

Re: Electric car that charges itself

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This idea will never be practical but it also seems it won't die. 69 miles per week of charging. Assuming the car is sitting outdoors all week and the weather is not cloudy. A Tesla can charge more than this in an hour.

A Tesla has solar panels?

I’m pretty sure this car can be plugged in too. In fact it has bidirectional charging, so a parking lot of these things could (theoretically) be connected into a huge solar system charging all the cars

Re: Electric car that charges itself

#15

For the poor efficiency of solar panels, seems like a big gimmick to try to differentiate and spend a ton of R&D on (solar body panels). I'd find it more interesting if you could just plug it directly into a solar array.

You can already do this. There are inverter sets that come with EV chargers.

Re: Electric car that charges itself

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For the poor efficiency of solar panels, seems like a big gimmick to try to differentiate and spend a ton of R&D on (solar body panels). I'd find it more interesting if you could just plug it directly into a solar array.

I think we're going to see more devices that are designed to deal with solar power directly. Like an air conditioner that will throttle back if there is only 2000W of power available instead of the 6000W it normally draws.

An example of something that doesn't work well. Saw a guy that installed a heat pump water heater in his off grid house. In heat pump only mode it drew 500W. Problem he had to work around was it on startup it would flip on it's resistive heaters for a couple of seconds. Which would crowbar his inverter. And if he disconnected them it would throw a fault. A slight design change would make it work seamlessly.

Re: Electric car that charges itself

#17

This may be a stupid question but given that these cars literally absorb light... do they pose a danger on the roads in terms of visibility to other motorists?

Every car that isn't white, especially if it has a dark color, absorbs light. The visibility of this car should be like the one of any other black car.

Re: Electric car that charges itself

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This idea will never be practical but it also seems it won't die. 69 miles per week of charging. Assuming the car is sitting outdoors all week and the weather is not cloudy. A Tesla can charge more than this in an hour.

Why do you have to bring fraud Karen in to everything?

Re: Electric car that charges itself

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First to get to market but certainly not the only player in the solar-powered self-charging production car space. There's enough of them that there's a Wikipedia page - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_car

It's such a silly claim to put on their page. They aren't even available yet.

Aptera and Lightyear both have earlier projected delivery dates so even if we are saying "stock consumer car, off the lot, no after market" they're still wrong

People who know better are like "no it's not" and people who don't will spread it and be told they're wrong.

Solar charging solves the fueling problem for commuters in sunny environments, the narrative is compelling enough, no need to so prominently lie.

Besides people already don't really trust these boutique car manufacturers with unproven safety track records. It's a terrible first impression

Re: Electric car that charges itself

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This may be a stupid question but given that these cars literally absorb light... do they pose a danger on the roads in terms of visibility to other motorists?

Not any more than a matte black car judging from the photos. Cars are required to have retroreflectors so night-time should not be that big of a problem.

The main issue is the extra cost of this worth the 16km (10miles) in range added per day. It produces $1/day in electricity, so it needs to cost less than $2.5k for it to be cheaper than electricity.

This is highly dependent on what you pay in electricity (system produces 33kw/week on average).

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