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Post by acdha »

cbozeman wrote: post #326
acdha wrote: post #301

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This approach only works if they don’t care about you. There’s a couple of decades of history by now showing how this approach fails, ranging from mass harassment (want to spend weeks blocking randos and sock puppets?) to attempts to contact your family and coworkers up to in-person harassment, placing Craigslist ads with your address saying you have violent rape fantasies, and SWATing. This is, of course, unevenly d…

You were doing pretty good right up until you tried to channel GamerGame... that was a huge mistake. I get that you believe the "Official Party Line"(TM), but a lot of people don't, and a lot of us watched this whole thing unfold real-time across The Zoe Post, 4chan, reddit, and every other major venue on which it presented itself. Furthermore, some of us actually know the participants involved in a professional and…

I realize that you might want to view your friends in a positive light but what I wrote is an accurate description of GamerGate (A lot of us saw this unfold, too). “ethics in journalism” was their favored excuse but the real cause was always the seething hatred for feminists and women not knowing their place. They ignored contemporaneous real ethical issues and focused on known-inaccurate excuses for the continued hate mob - for example, you’re still repeating their claim that Zoe Quinn slept with Nathan Grayson for good reviews, despite him not reviewing her games – something easily verified for anyone who cared to check.

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Post by rodgerd »

duskwuff wrote: post #225
rodgerd wrote: post #196

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You could probably get some value from https://secateur.app/ but there are also various blocktogether the groups.

BlockTogether shut down in January, after Twitter disabled the APIs it used.

Well, arse.

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Post by morpheos137 »

morpheos137 wrote: post #289
xwolfi wrote: post #278

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Well if you give the address of the teenage daughter of you noisy neighbour doing parties all the time with a pic that say "come and take me", maybe you crossed a line that should stimulate moderation?

Re-read my sentence about prosecuting crimes being the job of civil authorities not some Twitter moderator. I would much rather somebody who did something like you mentioned feared being arrested instead of just banned from Twitter.

Also this is kind of how twitter requiring phone verification comes in handy. Joe Jerk Neighbour calls strangers as above to accost Neighbour Daughter. Strangers are arrested They say @jjerk put us up to it. Thanks to twitter the cops know exactly who @jjerk is in real life. No need for moderator memory hole, just arrest the guy.

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Post by LegitShady »

withinboredom wrote: post #211
LegitShady wrote: post #190

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I created a regular account. I followed a handful of people. Not long after (same day I think) it said they thought I was a bot and could I scan my ID and email it to them to verify I was a human. I couldn't even log into the account to delete it without providing them a photo of my ID, so I said fuck that and never thought about it ever again.

The funny part is, your account was probably recorded as a "bot" account in that team's success metrics.

honestly I'm happy it worked out that way, given how cancerous twitter has become. They blocked me and it was better for me overall.

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Post by chordalkeyboard »

theamk wrote: post #320
chordalkeyboard wrote: post #307

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Risk is a part of life, driving a car puts people at risk. Going out with a mask also puts people at risk. Coal and nuclear power put people at risk. You can’t eliminate risk by restricting people’s rights, at some point the restrictions cause more measureable harm and risk of future harm than they eliminate.

And that's why we have driver licences, clean air laws, NRC. You can't just subject other people to risk because you want to, since it is the community who is going to pay the price, it is the community that decides how to restrict the rights. (Granted, the process for making that decision is not always the best, but unfortunately this is the only one we have)

Oh I agree 100%. This is why there is constant tension between people who want less restrictions and people who want more. We are always striking an imperfect balance.

“A good compromise leaves everybody mad.” -Bill Watterson

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Post by cbozeman »

theamk wrote: post #318
cbozeman wrote: post #165

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There is no way to moderate the entire world. The sooner everyone alive accepts this, the better off we will be. The values of a Black lesbian female software developer who grew up in San Francisco and went to Stanford will never be compatible with the values of a Hispanic straight male Marine officer who grew up in San Antonio and went to Texas Christian University and has been deployed to 17 different countries. Ho…

What's wrong with the good old method, "separate communities"? A group of people talking about sports will reject (or moderate) people who want to talk about latest programming languages. A group of people talking about computer-related stuff will downvote and flag non-computer news about latest sport game. The global discussion forum without any moderation does not live long. We can moderate the entire world if we s…

I'm fine with that... but these platforms aren't.

These platforms are driven by what Eric Weinstein, correctly I think, calls E.G.O.s, or Embedded Growth Obligations. You can't convince a venture capitalist to fund something like Twitter without the promise of enormous user growth, because the model only works if you have an enormous userbase on the platform.

I actually think Zuckerberg's dumbass tag line, "It's free, and always will be." is stupid. Facebook is worth about jack shit to everyone except advertisers, because it doesn't cost anything. Putting up a monthly fee is how you separate people who are willing to shit all over something from people who are willing to build something.

World of Warcraft is, I think, a fine example of this, especially versus a game like League of Legends. WoW's userbase, will still filled with the occasional troll and troublemaker, has far fewer than League. Why? Because you have to buy the game itself just to get started. Then you have to spend $15 a month to play it. You're invested from the word "go". For League, you play the entire game, from start to "finish" for free, only paying if you want to. Hence you see a ton more trolling and shitty behavior, because the vast, vast majority of players aren't invested - its just a way for them to while away their lives with no investment.

I guarantee you, if you had to pay $5 a month for Twitter and $5 a month for Facebook, you'd see a lot more reasonable behavior, because after the first few months, only people who really got "value" from the platform would keep spending the money to use it. And the sad part is, even 100,000,000 users at $5 a month would be an enormous moneymaking enterprise - with almost guaranteed higher quality interactions.

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Post by ReflectedImage »

acdha wrote: post #341
cbozeman wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were doing pretty good right up until you tried to channel GamerGame... that was a huge mistake. I get that you believe the "Official Party Line"(TM), but a lot of people don't, and a lot of us watched this whole thing unfold real-time across The Zoe Post, 4chan, reddit, and every other major venue on which it presented itself. Furthermore, some of us actually know the participants involved in a professional and…

I realize that you might want to view your friends in a positive light but what I wrote is an accurate description of GamerGate (A lot of us saw this unfold, too). “ethics in journalism” was their favored excuse but the real cause was always the seething hatred for feminists and women not knowing their place. They ignored contemporaneous real ethical issues and focused on known-inaccurate excuses for the continued ha…

"despite him not reviewing her games" The people he directly managed wrote 2 reviews. Stop pushing a lie.

The issue here acdha is that you failed to check.

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Post by acdha »

ReflectedImage wrote: post #347
acdha wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I realize that you might want to view your friends in a positive light but what I wrote is an accurate description of GamerGate (A lot of us saw this unfold, too). “ethics in journalism” was their favored excuse but the real cause was always the seething hatred for feminists and women not knowing their place. They ignored contemporaneous real ethical issues and focused on known-inaccurate excuses for the continued ha…

"despite him not reviewing her games" The people he directly managed wrote 2 reviews. Stop pushing a lie. The issue here acdha is that you failed to check.

Dude, it’s been almost 7 years, full of widely-recognized dishonesty and bad faith arguments by GamerGaters and fellow travelers. What do you think you’re going to accomplish by trying a new variation of an old claim conspicuously made without any evidence? Do you really think anyone is going to believe it, much less say it excuses what happened?

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by ReflectedImage »

acdha wrote: post #348
ReflectedImage wrote: post #347

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"despite him not reviewing her games" The people he directly managed wrote 2 reviews. Stop pushing a lie. The issue here acdha is that you failed to check.

Dude, it’s been almost 7 years, full of widely-recognized dishonesty and bad faith arguments by GamerGaters and fellow travelers. What do you think you’re going to accomplish by trying a new variation of an old claim conspicuously made without any evidence? Do you really think anyone is going to believe it, much less say it excuses what happened?

No one at the time ever claimed that the articles didn't exist, as you could just read the articles in question.

It was a revisionist lie added 6 to 8 months after the events.

Since you didn't bother to read the articles, there were 2 seperate articles both about Indie games in general. They both had sections on Depression Quest and both used Depression Quest for all the article's images. One of them at the bottom had a single hashtag #DepressionQuest on it. Both written by Nathan Grayson's subordinates.

Obviously, this isn't any different than large publishers giving the gaming journalists huge sacks of money, which they do.

The problem was it escalated out of control into the gaming journalists writing hit pieces on the gaming community as part of their damage control.

I'm sorry acdha but 7 years ago you were duped by hit piece articles.

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Post by CRConrad »

ReflectedImage wrote: post #349
acdha wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dude, it’s been almost 7 years, full of widely-recognized dishonesty and bad faith arguments by GamerGaters and fellow travelers. What do you think you’re going to accomplish by trying a new variation of an old claim conspicuously made without any evidence? Do you really think anyone is going to believe it, much less say it excuses what happened?

No one at the time ever claimed that the articles didn't exist, as you could just read the articles in question. It was a revisionist lie added 6 to 8 months after the events. Since you didn't bother to read the articles, there were 2 seperate articles both about Indie games in general. They both had sections on Depression Quest and both used Depression Quest for all the article's images. One of them at the bottom ha…

"Duped by hit piece articles"?!? That might be relevant, IF it in any way any way excused all that followed.

I'm sorry, "ReflectedImage1", but looking at it from the other side it looks like this: Seven years later, you're still defending the indefensible, citing some irrelevant bullshit to excuse the inexcusable. Your comment certainly was revealing, but not in the way you probably hoped.

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