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Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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Post by devtul » Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 3:45 PM UTC

jollofricepeas wrote: post #115

rendall wrote: post #106

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I imagine it's difficult to address problems with the government if, whenever anyone does so, someone brings up the former government. Bring up slavery in Dubai, and people start talking about the transatlantic slave trade and European colonialism. It gives people of the present a free pass to behave reprehensibly, because other people in the past behaved reprehensibly

You should read the comments. 1. It was a throwaway. 2. The reply was... “It does not matter who holds it. Unchecked power always corrupts.” The problem with the ANC is the same issue as The Nationalist. Without strong opposition and even a stronger free press, unchecked power always leads to corruption.

So when you see ANC opposition, you promptly bash it on the head and bring up past failures. Are you trolling?

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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Post by CamTin » Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 3:47 PM UTC

lovegoblin wrote: post #157

vermilingua wrote: post #132

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So hang on, why is it that South Africa is “corrupt”, but Texas is “beholden to certain vested interests”?

The distinction-without-a-difference between these two phrases is exactly the point of the comment you're responding to.

...and presumably also the point of the comment it was responding to.

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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Post by kokx » Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 3:47 PM UTC

JimDabell wrote: post #113

kokx wrote: post #105

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DST has nothing to do with TOTP. The TOTP spec specifies that unix time has to be used as the time source, which does not have DST.

That doesn't matter, DST-related events can still break TOTP. Example: Device is set to the wrong timezone. It’s nearby, but the difference between the two timezones is that one has DST and one doesn’t. DST comes along, either the time changes by an hour when it isn’t supposed to, or it doesn’t change when it is supposed to. The most visible thing that looks broken to the user is not the timezone, but the time. So th…

I find this awfully thin. About every device that does TOTP by default takes its time from the network provider, and lets the user set the correct timezone, and makes it even really easy to do so. Since most DST settings for timezones in the world are quite predictable (yes I am aware that there are few that have last-minute changes, but most don't, especially not in developed nations), most people never have to adjust their timezone because of DST.

Though I do suspect that Google Authenticator even has some logic to reduce these problems, since you can "sync" its time in the settings.

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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Post by dylan604 » Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 3:48 PM UTC

pistoriusp wrote: post #99

brodo wrote: post #59

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OMG. This is as bad or even worse than Texas or California...

It is far worse, but South Africa has an inept and corrupt government, I wonder what the excuse is for Texas?

Why would you think it is any different? ERCOT was recommended to protect its power generation capabilities from severe winter weather for over 10 years, yet the Republican leadership did nothing about it. That's either corruption or sheer ineptitude.

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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Post by devtul » Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 3:54 PM UTC

How long until we have to validate our code against a list of banned terms, like "master" or any new truly egregiously offensive terms of the day, before we are able to host our code or binaries on a third-party service?

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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Post by ivanbakel » Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 3:55 PM UTC

MikeUt wrote: post #154

ivanbakel wrote: post #152

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Would the answer to that question be a fair analysis? A great deal has changed about the country between the successive governments - not just the political power structure. Population figures, human development, the march of technology etc, all affect energy demands. The most optimistic view would be that an energy company that operates without blackouts in an apartheid state should not be applauded for its performa…

The current blackouts were blamed on corruption, followed by "the good old days of apartheid when corruption ran at an all-time high", implying blackouts were just as bad in the past. It would be nice to first clear up the factual issue of whether blackouts have grown more or less frequent, before jumping ahead to the moral calculus of who should be applauded or condemned more.

>implying blackouts were just as bad in the past.

I don't understand where this implication comes from. In claiming that current governmental corruption is the cause of the current blackouts, the throwaway commenter implied that blackouts were less prevalent in the past. The reply then objected to the idea that the previous government was less corrupt - but the opposite statement does not require that blackouts were just as prevalent. It is possible that the previous government was corrupt, but any number of other factors meant that the energy grid did not require load shedding.

That's why I asked if the historical frequency of blackouts is really a fair analysis? Is it worth "clearing up", given that blackouts are not a direct function of corruption?

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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Post by zepto » Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 3:57 PM UTC

heavyset_go wrote: post #144

swiley wrote: post #111

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Smartphone app development is a poor investment. Just build a good website.

Unfortunately, Apple refuses to implement basic features into Safari that Chrome and Firefox have supported for a while, and they refuse to allow developers to use browser engines other than the embedded Safari on iOS. This forces developers to release iOS apps if they want to target iOS users. What we need is some anti-trust litigation with teeth.

What features?

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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Post by GormanFletcher » Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 3:57 PM UTC

sneak wrote: post #163

wheresmycraisin wrote: post #29

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Or you can just make a web app. Unless you are doing games or anything requiring lower-level hardware access, like a bluetooth scanner or something.

Webapps don't show up on the home screen, can't be targets of share pane actions, can't access contacts, can't send push notifications.

The current state of webapps on Android has made good progress on these issues:

Supported on all major Android browsers:

- Progressive Web Apps can be added to your home screen - Web Push lets web apps receive push notifications (Brave's implementation is broken, but they try to support the feature)

Experimental APIs supported by Chrome for Android:

- Web Share Target API, which lets homescreen'd web apps receive shares from other apps (the share pane makes no distinction between sharing to a web app or a native app) - Contacts APIs to read the user's contacts list

I think PWA's competitiveness will get a lot better once other browsers adopt the Web Share Target (or something like it), but I'm skeptical that they'll really take off as long as Apple continues hold off on implementing features that would make PWAs competitive with native apps.

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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Post by jrochkind1 » Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 3:57 PM UTC

dylan604 wrote: post #170

saberdancer wrote: post #153

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Texas had tier 3 level of load shedding recently.

Based on the incompetent decisions that ERCOT has made over the past few "severe weather events", I would say ERCOT and ESKOM are eerily similar.

All my reading said that the decisions ERCOT made during the weather event were all very competent. They kept the grid from collapsing, which was their job.

The fact that extensive load shedding and brownouts etc needed to happen was not a result of decisions made during the weather event, but lack of infrastructure investment over decades (that may or may not have been under the control of ERCOT, rather than the legislature and state government regulators, but ERCOT certainly was on board with/lobbying for the conditions of deregulation that led to them).

During the weather event... ERCOT, the grid operator, did their job very competently. Making more capacity come online or reducing consumer demand was not really something that could be done during the weather event. They kept the grid from collapsing -- and it nearly did collapse, it was a close call. That was their job during the event.

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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Post by toast0 » Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 3:59 PM UTC

derekp7 wrote: post #145

euph0ria wrote: post #141

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Push notifications. One of the primary reasons why companies haven't switched to PWA for simple apps.

Then what is that popup I get all the time visiting sites that says "Allow site xyz to send notifications"? Is that different than push notifications?

App push notifications can be silent, but web based notifications can't. That means you can push updated content without disturbing the user in an app, but not for a webpage.