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All these Brilliant People at Facebook Make Me Sad

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Re: All these Brilliant People at Facebook Make Me Sad

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Perhaps it should refer to all the brilliant people in %90 of web startups in general. The majority of Silicon Valley's (NYC perhaps even more so) recent output is fluff, stuff that impacts people's lives about the same as drugstore celebrity mags. (But it's not a new trend, TV or advertising or law or finance are/were similar in that respect.)

The majority of everything has always been fluff. It's just we remember those parts of the past that weren't fluff, and forget 97% of it. Otherwise our heads would be entirely fluff.

I vividly remember the fall of the Berlin Wall, just about the time I was getting married. Until this spring, I had a similar tendency to think that geopolitics "nowadays" was drab and boring. Evolutionary punctuation only just happens so often, but that doesn't mean evolution has come to a screeching halt. (Or rather, it has - just that it will continue with a screeching lurch when it's good and ready.)

Re: All these Brilliant People at Facebook Make Me Sad

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Facebook just doesn't have many engineers. "Over 2000 employees" (wikipedia says) just isn't that many. Compared that to Google (~20,000 to 30,000?), Microsoft (~90,000), or the IRS - over 100,000, or the Pentagon - 757,000. Facebook has an order of magnitude less than just about any other similarly sized organization. It's bigger than Wikipedia, though.

Of those 2,000 employees only about 300 are actually engineers, if I recall correctly. But the point is, I guess, more about quality then quantity.

I think the real cost is in the ~50,000 engineers* who are trying to clone Facebook, not in the ~300 who are actually working on it.

* Made up number.

Re: All these Brilliant People at Facebook Make Me Sad

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I think that there are shorter ways to accomplish it beyond Internet communication.

There are lots of projects working on peace, health and poverty where someone with your skills could could help or work.

Do you mind telling me about some projects in those fields(health specially)?. I'm learning about data mining/machine learning and I'd love to know how this fields are applied to solve important problems and what I can do to help.

Re: All these Brilliant People at Facebook Make Me Sad

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There are almost 7 billion people on the planet. What is really sad is that most will never have the opportunity to contribute in any meaningful way. In reality we should be lamenting that we don't have 100 million more "brilliant" people working on the "important" problems.

Re: All these Brilliant People at Facebook Make Me Sad

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Facebook's number of active users served per employee is very impressive. The ridiculous number of photos uploaded every second. I've long ago figured out that I'd never be able to pass the screens for Facebook, Apple (and at one time, Microsoft). I do still dream of Apple, even after reading the $0.99 Fortune Kindle single on how 'it's not about getting hired at Apple, it's about being able to stay ' What makes me h…

And why exactly it is hard to stay? I couldn't find the article, that's why I'm asking.

I've known a couple of folks who worked at apple, and described the experience as "Hell on Earth".

Re: All these Brilliant People at Facebook Make Me Sad

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What are "useful" jobs?

Any job that someone's willing to pay to have done - by paying for the job, they indicate that it's worth that much money, and hence at least as useful as that money was.

Lawyers, drug dealers, assassins, politicians, bankers, managers, accountants, stock traders, to mention a few: all paid significant amounts but not really that worthy, are they?

Re: All these Brilliant People at Facebook Make Me Sad

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I guess I get where you're trying to go with that statement, but you're wrong. Both of those afflictions cross socioeconomic boundaries. And the science behind each, while certainly exploited for it's obvious economic benefit, is nothing to laugh at. Talk to a patient with alopecia universalis (total baldness across entire epidermis, including eyelashes, etc.) or primary venogenic impotence (inability to get erection…

That the afflictions cross economic boundaries is obvious, but how about access to those treatments? The fact that pharma companies pursue these issues vs some more life-threatening is a pure profit calculation based on those with the means to pay for them. But don't get me wrong, I'm a dyed in the wool free-market man so I have no issue with them applying their resources however they see fit, but let's dispense with…

Whoa, hold on... I think medicine and biotech are misunderstood here.

First of all, Big Pharma != Academia or biotech startups. The former group concentrates on profitability and marketable drugs, whereas the latter two do the heavy lifting for a broad spectrum of diseases.

Secondly (and more importantly), we must realize that there are two issues at hand: the ease of developing an effective drug to combat a particular disease state, and the predominance of a given disease in the general population.

Big Pharma already claimed the "low hanging" fruit decades ago. Many of today's medical problems require a systems engineering methodology to approach them as the pathways and metabolomics are just too incredibly complicated to yield direct solutions. The search spaces are vast, multidimensional, and tedious.

To make matters worse, it's really difficult to commit to studying an orphan disease. A solution to a particular type of cancer, Alzheimer's, or HIV would have wide applicability and save many lives. Finding a solution to a rare genetic disorder, however, may help only a few thousand individuals. It's incredibly sad that there is such suffering from rare diseases, but we have so little mental capital to invest in fixing these problems. At present, biotech and medicine is nothing like programming where iteration and debugging yield fast results. Years of personal labor can become pointless if mistakes are made.

I don't know if it's justified for me to feel this way, but I wish more of the brilliant minds in programming would switch to a biotech/research profession. Computing is such a well-traversed and developed field and solution space. While it isn't glamorous, medicine and biotech really need you...

Re: All these Brilliant People at Facebook Make Me Sad

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There was another post similar to this a few days back. While this focuses specifically on Facebook (for seemingly hoarding intelligent people), the real issue is that there are little to no philanthropic movements in the tech industry. Reiterating my remarks from the aforementioned post, this is merely a result of "people" being bored and caring too much about themselves. For whatever reason, consumers have yet to be enlightened that there are others on the planet who may not be able to play farmville all day, let alone eat. This behavior is understandable, though, because we've developed pretty much everything with a narcissistic angle. Share your photos, talk to your friends, it's all about you, you, you. Until we abandon or differentiate between this attitude and a more caring/understanding one, then the intelligent folk are going to flock where the money is: narcissism.

Re: All these Brilliant People at Facebook Make Me Sad

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The issue is that society thinks it's ok to charge $50k for a fancy car but not for a lifesaving treatment. In the former situation you have a choice, in the latter you have no choice.

Mmm, but that has unfortunate second-order effects. Why was so much effort expended on Viagra instead of a cure for AIDS? Well the elephant in the corner of the room is that drug companies need to make money to fund more research; people will buy Viagra but as soon as a cure for AIDS is discovered the governments of India and Brazil will set about mass-manufacturing it without a penny to the discoverer. Knowing this,…

Why was so much effort expended on Viagra instead of a cure for AIDS?

Viagra wasn't created for the purpose of treating ED, it was originally meant as a treatment for high blood pressure and angina[1]. The fact that it caused erections just caused Pfizer to shift to marketing it as an ED treatment. So it's not like they were spending tons of research money specifically to "help old men have erections."

Knowing this, even if they wanted to do it for the good of humanity drug companies couldn't - they'd be busted for failing their fiduciary responsibility to shareholders!

Not necessarily true. Drug companies have worked on cures for diseases that are prevalent in the 3rd world, and they have even - on occasion - intentionally distributed that cure for free, to people who couldn't afford it. [2]

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sildenafil

[2]: http://www.mectizan.org/history

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