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Post by neartheplain »

ogre_codes wrote: post #228

Starlink is SpaceX's way of guaranteeing SpaceX has a launch client. It increases the number of launches they make, and drives down the cost per launch, both for themselves and for their other customers. They are creating a business model which is both profitable and drives profits to their launch business. This is similar to the synergy Amazon's online store and AWS have with each other. If SpaceX has room on a laun…

AWS and the Amazon.com store may have synergy now, but for many years the store was its own thing. Amazon.com only finished migrating off Oracle DB in 2019:

https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/migration-complete-amazons-...

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Post by ryzvonusef »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #298
gonehome wrote: post #238

The service is awesome. In Placerville California our service went from Calnet 10mbps down at 28ms latency to Starlink 160mbps down at 24ms latency. This is a really big deal and will disrupt a lot of these shitty ISPs that have done nothing for years. Also, still tracking for my 2021 predictions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25601473 Edit: Price is only $99/month with one up front cost for the hardware ($500…

> Elon says we should see 300mbps soon and less than 20ms ping (iirc). Mini rant: Can we stop calling that guy by his first name as if you were his acquaintance?

Mini rant: Sincerely, who cares?

Musk just has a weird mouth feel (has the same strange feeling like saying "Moist", to me), Elon just flows of the tongue better, (both literally and metaphorically in the "thought voice" sense), and also is rather unique (unlike Jack, Tim, Mark or Jeff, Elon is a far less common name)

if it gets the point across, why quibble over such minor details?

Also, on a seperate point, Elon has rather created that familiarity by his constant Twitter updates, we FAR more about Elon, both personally and professionally, on a MUCH more regular basis, than like the next thousand billionaires combined. It's not strange that people DO genuinely believe they are acquainted with him in some way.

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Post by missedthecue »

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #250
missedthecue wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But all the components of an iPhone can technically be recycled to one degree or another (even if they aren't at present). Once a satellite has been incinerated, that's it. And there will be thousands of these, and several providers. That's thousands and thousands of pounds of material disappearing for good, every year.

Not really. You know what happens when a satellite burns up in the atmosphere? Hint: It's not a nuclear reaction. All the components end up back on earth (just vaporized and oxidized).

Vaporized and unreclaimable are the same thing here

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Post by laluser »

neartheplain wrote: post #301
ogre_codes wrote: post #228

Starlink is SpaceX's way of guaranteeing SpaceX has a launch client. It increases the number of launches they make, and drives down the cost per launch, both for themselves and for their other customers. They are creating a business model which is both profitable and drives profits to their launch business. This is similar to the synergy Amazon's online store and AWS have with each other. If SpaceX has room on a laun…

AWS and the Amazon.com store may have synergy now, but for many years the store was its own thing. Amazon.com only finished migrating off Oracle DB in 2019: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/migration-complete-amazons-...

The last Oracle DB migration was just for one part of internal retail operation that was particularly difficult or just needed more resources. Most of retail had been using AWS for quite some time before that (earlier than 2009). Source: worked there and knew the team that did that migration.

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Post by xmprt »

scsilver wrote: post #288
ethbr0 wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flywheel integration is probably a better term. I.e. not vertically integrating for the supply of your current product, but in such a way that demand for both is increased.

Ive heard fly wheel in regards to tech company strategy 3 times in a month, was there a conference I wasnt invited to?

Same here. I'm guessing it's a term that's come up in a few popular posts here (especially considering Jeff Bezos left Amazon a few weeks ago and he talks about it a lot in his book and in general) and is not part of the vernacular of commenters here. Similar idea for other circles that you might have heard it in.

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Post by cartoonfoxes »

willis936 wrote: post #277
ogre_codes wrote: post #228

Starlink is SpaceX's way of guaranteeing SpaceX has a launch client. It increases the number of launches they make, and drives down the cost per launch, both for themselves and for their other customers. They are creating a business model which is both profitable and drives profits to their launch business. This is similar to the synergy Amazon's online store and AWS have with each other. If SpaceX has room on a laun…

If they have empty space on payloads they also sell it for a (very reasonable) 1 million USD. https://youtu.be/DB1Aii8NoC0

At that price it makes me wonder if there's a market in vanity satellites for the wealthy.

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Post by ashneo76 »

ogre_codes wrote: post #247
gonehome wrote: post #238

The service is awesome. In Placerville California our service went from Calnet 10mbps down at 28ms latency to Starlink 160mbps down at 24ms latency. This is a really big deal and will disrupt a lot of these shitty ISPs that have done nothing for years. Also, still tracking for my 2021 predictions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25601473 Edit: Price is only $99/month with one up front cost for the hardware ($500…

Many of these ISPs are shitty because they service the hardest to reach places. Comcast and Verizon have gobbled up billions in government aid to bring service to rural areas and end up delivering only to fringe areas which they can reach easily. The small companies end up struggling to get the government cash and end up underfunded providing service to the absolute-most difficult to reach consumers. It's a real crap…

So much this. The ground playing field has been controlled by comcast and Verizon. And now space will be spacex. This will be just as bad, if not worse for the people

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Post by gonehome »

ogre_codes wrote: post #247
gonehome wrote: post #238

The service is awesome. In Placerville California our service went from Calnet 10mbps down at 28ms latency to Starlink 160mbps down at 24ms latency. This is a really big deal and will disrupt a lot of these shitty ISPs that have done nothing for years. Also, still tracking for my 2021 predictions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25601473 Edit: Price is only $99/month with one up front cost for the hardware ($500…

Many of these ISPs are shitty because they service the hardest to reach places. Comcast and Verizon have gobbled up billions in government aid to bring service to rural areas and end up delivering only to fringe areas which they can reach easily. The small companies end up struggling to get the government cash and end up underfunded providing service to the absolute-most difficult to reach consumers. It's a real crap…

I guess as a customer I don’t really care why they suck, I just know that they do. I also don’t care about small business if they provide bad service.

From a policy standpoint as a citizen - I think it’s terrible the telecom monopolies took public money and did nothing, but I think they’ll start feeling competitive pressure from Starlink too, hopefully this will force them to adapt or die (I don’t really care which).

In SF with Google webpass fiber, Comcast is not competitive.

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Post by omgwtfbyobbq »

beebmam wrote: post #146

I'd like to point out that I'm a big astrophotography nerd. And these satellites are regularly showing up in my long exposure images. It's really quite a nuisance, and I don't look forward to it getting worse.

That's crummy. Would it be possible to take some additional shorter exposure images and use those to remove them from your long exposure images?

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Post by nordsieck »

alextheparrot wrote: post #46

My mother was raving about the service the other day. Speeds are 10-15x faster, she’s having an easier time with her online community college course and her job KPI is up by double digit percents [1]. She was worried that IT wouldn’t be OK with it when I said it was satellite (They’d been burned too many times), but the IT guy was incredibly excited because he’s also waiting to get Starlink. Looking forward to the se…

> Unfortunately it's also littering the sky with a shitload of eventual junk, and immediate astronomical blight.

Starlink are the least likely satellites to create "eventual junk" since they orbit so low. The biggest criticism is probably that there are so many they present a visual hazard for astronomy

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