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Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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Are your tables large enough Office 365 can't handle it for a reasonable price?

Do you mean excel, or has Microsoft come out with an airtable clone? Excel is a really poor substitute for airtable.

SharePoint Lists is designed to compete with Airtables.

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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What is the benefit of using such a solution rather than a standard database like sqlite or posgresql perhaps with some automatic api on top?

So, you ask your designers and managers to check data through phpMyAdmin and let them edit there?

Even by myself as a developer, I handle my to-do list with Seatable and apparently, using a raw db isn't comfortable at all.

That's some poor imagination.

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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Hello everyone, I am Bram Wiepjes, the founder of Baserow. Baserow is an open source, soon to be open core, no-code database tool and Airtable alternative. Easily create your own relational database in a user friendly way without technical experience. - Unlimited rows. - Released under the MIT license. - Uses popular frameworks like Django and Vue.js. - Uses PostgreSQL as database backend. - It can be self hosted. -…

Would love to talk to you - $hn_username at gmail

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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AWS is a few layers below that service. You can't tell AWS "give me a domain with baserow installed". Or at least not without going through the layers of describing how it's mapped to actual compute resources and how is deployed.

Yea, but you can tell AWS "give me a domain my (MySQL | Postgres | Elasticsearch | ...) installed, which I think was the parent poster's joke

It requires a lot of work and very low level configuration to go beyond the infrastructure elements. Databases? - sure. Managed apps? - here's a book on vpcs, subnets, and eni attachments in AWS.

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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post #17

Hello everyone, I am Bram Wiepjes, the founder of Baserow. Baserow is an open source, soon to be open core, no-code database tool and Airtable alternative. Easily create your own relational database in a user friendly way without technical experience. - Unlimited rows. - Released under the MIT license. - Uses popular frameworks like Django and Vue.js. - Uses PostgreSQL as database backend. - It can be self hosted. -…

> € 4,00 per user / month In the USA and I think all English speaking places we use dot rather than comma to separate decimals from whole number, and comma for thousands, millions etc. So at a glance (before looking closely) this looks like four thousand euros per user per month. I looked a second time and realized that was incorrect but consider fixing for EN- 4K/user/mo is quite shocking to read! :)

Price is in €, not $/£. English language is used as international language, not to designate anglosphere countries as the target market.

  ['en-US','en-IE','en-GB','en-ZA','en-AU','de-DE','es-ES','nl-NL','pl-PL','ru-RU','cs-CZ','sv-SE','fi-FI','lv-LV']
    .forEach(lang => console.log(lang + ': ' + new Number('1.23').toLocaleString(lang)))
  en-US: 1.23
  en-IE: 1.23
  en-GB: 1.23
  en-ZA: 1,23
  en-AU: 1.23
  de-DE: 1,23
  es-ES: 1,23
  nl-NL: 1,23
  pl-PL: 1,23
  ru-RU: 1,23
  cs-CZ: 1,23
  sv-SE: 1,23
  fi-FI: 1,23
  lv-LV: 1,23

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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Significantly damages your brand to do this and you'll defacto turn into a consulting company. Plus places incentives on your org to force things to be incidents since that's what pays. You'll get stuck in a local minimum of being a small-time consulting company. Or maybe you won't. But that's the reason I wouldn't want to do it. Besides, there's no way you can only access the no-support users. Google, for instance,…

I deal with a lot of small businesses and to me it feels like that entire sector of the industry is being abandoned. Most small businesses owners are practical and will pay for things when they need them, but they're fairly price sensitive and they expect good value for their money. Take MS365 as an example. Most small businesses I deal with would be way better off with Exchange than with their current shared hosting…

even google charges $6+ a month for email. If they can't pay that tiny bit of money maybe they don't need a full featured product and its not a good market segment

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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> € 4,00 per user / month In the USA and I think all English speaking places we use dot rather than comma to separate decimals from whole number, and comma for thousands, millions etc. So at a glance (before looking closely) this looks like four thousand euros per user per month. I looked a second time and realized that was incorrect but consider fixing for EN- 4K/user/mo is quite shocking to read! :)

Price is in €, not $/£. English language is used as international language, not to designate anglosphere countries as the target market. ['en-US','en-IE','en-GB','en-ZA','en-AU','de-DE','es-ES','nl-NL','pl-PL','ru-RU','cs-CZ','sv-SE','fi-FI','lv-LV'] .forEach(lang => console.log(lang + ': ' + new Number('1.23').toLocaleString(lang))) en-US: 1.23 en-IE: 1.23 en-GB: 1.23 en-ZA: 1,23 en-AU: 1.23 de-DE: 1,23 es-ES: 1,23…

Apologies, I must be missing your point. If the page is localized to/written in English as this page is, numbers should follow the English style of number formatting. There is an overwhelming consensus amongst English locales in how to format this number.

My goal isn't to be prescriptive, it's to reduce the likelihood confusion on the part of the reader. Writing in English then formatting numbers in a continental style is more confusing than writing in English and formatting numbers in the English style (obscure English locales with relatively minuscule numbers of users notwithstanding).

I've lived in Germany so it was easy for me to understand that €4,00 probably meant €4.00 given the context, but if I were unfamiliar with this style of formatting (as many American's may be), I might reasonably assume that the error was not a comma where there should be a dot, but a missing 0, making the cost €4,000/mo.

If it's your view that writing in English & formatting numbers non-English is more clear than matching the formatting to the language, I'm very interested in hearing that argument.

EDIT: I understand what you mean better now, you're figuring "Price in Euro = European target market." I didn't get that–I assumed the vendor is open to markets worldwide and charges in Euros because that's the vendor's home currency.

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

#228
post #65

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You lost me when there wasn't a docker image. I'd strongly encourage having one that can be dropped into a docker-compose config.

There are going to be production ready Docker images soon.

Oh look they appeared. https://baserow.io/docs/guides/demo-environment

Thank you!

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

#229

I am so excited for this software. I have used Airtable extensively, and it's a pile of garbage. Here are just a FEW of the "features" Airtable charges $24/user/mo for: - Reliable 1-5 hours a month of downtime. There are months where it's literally 1 nine of uptime. Their status page was actually down for a while (I think they forgot to renew it?) - Simple and obvious bugs in the official API clients have not been fi…

Just curious - what do you use airtable for exactly? When do you need a structured database with many collaborators? Airtable and the like strike me as a database tool for dummies who want 'anyone change anything anytime', which is just a recipe for no one knowing who the hell is changing what and when anymore.

"anyone change anything anytime" is much better than "hey can you email me that excel file? I'll make a few changes and then email it back to you" "actually I don't have the latest version, Person X has it and they're currently merging someone else's changes, so be patient"
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