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Think of it this way: there is no opportunity for an new entrant into this market almost globally. Stripe's fee is low enough and its API is super easy to use and the brand is well loved by most ecommerce companies. A new entrant will have to go up against this enormous amount of goodwill that Stripe has accumulated. The only danger to Stripe is if a major bank decides to get into this space. I work for a major bank…
Disagree. Every ecommerce company and retailer looks at payment fees as money left on the table. The more money Stripe take on, the more they need to return to investors, and so the more pressure to make margin. That is the opportunity for the future. I too doubt it would come from a bank, nor from Visa and Mastercard... but could another exist? Yes! If it came from a big player, I'd be looking at Shopify.
Stripe valuation soars to $95B after latest fundraising
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Ireland is also a tax haven, but sure, they're benevolently investing in their home country, that's totally what it is.
Most of the loop holes have been closed in Ireland over the past few years. I'd look at the Netherlands, Malta or Luxembourg these days if you're looking for shady booking accounting practices. It helps that the Collisons' are from Ireland, but there's also a highly educated workforce, native English speakers, a pro-business government, world class backbone internet connectivity, favourable timezone, plenty of renewa…
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#83This certainly makes Stripe the most valuable private startup in the world. Where does Stripe rank among the world's most valuable private companies, though? It's easy to find lists of dubious quality like this: https://news.yahoo.com/10-most-valuable-private-companies-21... , but I'm sure there are more lurking. What are they?
Coinbase is still private and is valued at $100 B.
Re: Stripe valuation soars to $95B after latest fundraising
#84What is Stripe's moat? It's developer friendly but from my experience management will only care about the cost.
Think about how much complexity Stripe abstracts away from you as its user. In the US it might seem "simple" in that it's just cards, but each network/acquirer behaves differently enough that even that isn't easy. Now incorporate payment methods that aren't cards -- which are way more popular than cards in other parts of the world. Then think about decoupling the payment method from the geo. And then decouple the pay…
So a shitty UI with a million random buttons looks complicated and hard and users respect it, but an intuitive UI looks so simple and clean it's like the software's barely doing anything!
Re: Stripe valuation soars to $95B after latest fundraising
#85Is Stripe unprofitable? What kind of scale are they going to reach that will push them over the edge into the black that they haven't been able to reach at the vast scale they already have? If they are profitable, why go the expensive equity route rather than using retained earnings? Or bonds? American Airlines recently sold $10 billion of them at 5.5%. Surely Stripe could do just as well or better.
Payment is just the entry point; from there they are probably going to expand into other quasi-bank services; the first low-hanging fruit that comes to mind is Advance Loans secured by CC receivables; easy, popular and highly lucrative.
Eh? How can it be all three of these things at the same time? If it's easy and popular, won't that push down the prices you can charge?
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The dart idea might give us better distribution? Throw a dart and solve problems/invest in solutions for where it sticks. Mostly be fixing ocean problems but I'm OK with that.
Wouldn’t this just mean that countries with larger land mass get more investment rather than countries with more people?
Re: Stripe valuation soars to $95B after latest fundraising
#87Is Stripe unprofitable? What kind of scale are they going to reach that will push them over the edge into the black that they haven't been able to reach at the vast scale they already have? If they are profitable, why go the expensive equity route rather than using retained earnings? Or bonds? American Airlines recently sold $10 billion of them at 5.5%. Surely Stripe could do just as well or better.
Keeping away from the public markets has allowed Stripe to keep a tight lid on financial details; it has not disclosed revenues or profitability.
However, a person close to the San Francisco-based company said it handles a larger volume of payments than its European rival Adyen, which has a market capitalisation of €60bn and processed €303.6bn in 2020.
Re: Stripe valuation soars to $95B after latest fundraising
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ireland is also a tax haven, but sure, they're benevolently investing in their home country, that's totally what it is.
They never implied anything about motive. Really, why does motive even matter? Opposing motives can meet on the same positive result. It happens all the time with humans; whether it's two friends, or a corporation of 50,000 people, or a nation of 300 million. Your pessimism seems to ignore the fact that this is a good thing regardless.
It'd be a breath of fresh air if CEO's could just say it like it is. I think more people would trust their brand and be more willing to invest in them. Our inner monologue wouldn't have had to fill in the blank with a possible hidden motive. Addressing the most common reason why companies "move" to Ireland could have been an opportunity to build trust.
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#89Edit: Based on the published data I can find, Stripe and Coinbase alone have added more to their valuations in the last year than the total valuation of the top 50 YC-funded startups including Stripe and Coinbase was last year.
Re: Stripe valuation soars to $95B after latest fundraising
#90I really really wish I could invest in Stripe as a retail investor :(
The huge exception this past decade has been crypto.