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Ask HN: Is there a book that teaches you dark patterns of office politics?

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Re: Ask HN: Is there a book that teaches you dark patterns of office politics?

#61
> I've noticed who writes the best code doesn't matter and there're opportunities which no one will offer, u have to take them

Maybe Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink would interest you. For example, he talks about playing the long game. Those petty office politics will maybe make you win in the short-term, but in the long run I have much more confidence in Jocko's take on work.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a book that teaches you dark patterns of office politics?

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post #42

This is why I hate office politics.

This is why I quit and built my own company from ground up. I can't tolerate office politics it probably is the first reason why there are so many self employed people out there.

i wish i could too, working on it.. but in mean time i need to level up

Re: Ask HN: Is there a book that teaches you dark patterns of office politics?

#66

Except for 4 how is that “dark”? As a company owner I would love to have an engineer getting interested in the business side and maybe becoming a partner. But I would pass on a sociopath applying a playbook for their personal gain.

i guess most points aren't dark, but win-win... but it's not normal way of thinking. usually you just take the work, quietly do it, and move onto next one. very few even know that u exist

Re: Ask HN: Is there a book that teaches you dark patterns of office politics?

#67
>use new tech

As someone who believe in pushing the envelope on new tech, I always try to consider the actual situation (i.e. current tech stack in the company, competence within the team, effects on future hiring, a reasonable onboarding path for new hires. Etc.)

It’s hard work, and it is honestly infuriating that these frauds would abuse it to create a career moat around themselves.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a book that teaches you dark patterns of office politics?

#69

Prioritize visible value for the business. Both parts - visibility and value - are important. Doing valuable things in secret won't help you. Doing visible things whose value others don't understand won't help either. Point 4 is a joke. It is better developed here: https://github.com/Droogans/unmaintainable-code . Your time is better spent on the other 3 areas.

> Point 4 is a joke. Exactly. And to the extent that I started to wonder if this whole post is an attempt to troll. The text speak only adds to the impression. With that said, a cursory look suggests the user profile of the submitter appears legit and has contributed meaningfully to other discussions.

some ppl in my team have been at it, and i've been ignoring it. but now i feel like i've had it and ready to respond in full force, so yea i love coding like a family but that's not where i am.
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